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Zogby: Obama Beats 'Rudy McRomney'
NewsMax ^ | 5/23/07 | Staff

Posted on 05/23/2007 9:03:49 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky

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So much for the idea Ghouliani is the best chance the GOP has to win back the White House.
1 posted on 05/23/2007 9:03:53 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

I’ve always thought that Obama Hussein would be a far more formidible opponent that Hitlery!


2 posted on 05/23/2007 9:08:15 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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Give it a few months, let Fred get in the race. I’m thinking if he gets the nomination, he wins ‘08 in a near Reaganesque landslide....and it won’t matter who the ‘rats nominate.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 9:08:45 PM PDT by Grunthor (You do not fix a criminal issue by making it no longer a crime.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Rudy has nothing to offer beside "remember 9/11." With the swing voters in my family, he is yesterday's news.

A Giuliani candidacy would drive down conservative voters in places like Ohio and Iowa. Other than New Hampshire, I don't see Rudy! bringing in any blue states.

4 posted on 05/23/2007 9:10:15 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Lighter than air. What happened to gravitas?


5 posted on 05/23/2007 9:10:20 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Ol' Sparky; eyespysomething
Won't that be nice ... we'll have our first President raised in a madrassa.

Wait, sorry, IIRC, Teddy Roosevelt was a muslim. Wasn't he?

6 posted on 05/23/2007 9:10:38 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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Democrat Barack Obama would defeat any of the three Republican front-runners - Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Mitt Romney - in a head-to-head presidential election, but McCain and Giuliani would outpoll Democrats Hillary Clinton and John Edwards, a surprising new poll reveals.

And not a Republican, much less a conservative, in the bunch.

7 posted on 05/23/2007 9:10:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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I’m thinking if he gets the nomination, he wins ‘08 in a near Reaganesque landslide

As divided as this country is right now, I don't forsee a Reaganesaque landslide happening for the next couple of election cycles.

Reagan is dead, so is much of the populace who voted for him (yet still voted Dem for congress). :-(

8 posted on 05/23/2007 9:11:47 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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I’m thinking if he gets the nomination, he wins ‘08 in a near Reaganesque landslide

Fred Thompson is not Reagan. Those who want to recreate Fred into another Reagan will be sorely disappointed. That's not to say he's a bad candidate - we don't know that yet - but he's not Reagan.

9 posted on 05/23/2007 9:12:19 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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“Fred Thompson is not Reagan.”

I was not saying that he was.


10 posted on 05/23/2007 9:12:55 PM PDT by Grunthor (You do not fix a criminal issue by making it no longer a crime.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Algore would squash them all. Not in an election, though.


11 posted on 05/23/2007 9:13:05 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: SittinYonder

Reagan is dead. He is NOT coming back. There can be no new Reagan.


12 posted on 05/23/2007 9:13:48 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Clinton and Hussein Obama are already running as a team. If they weren't, Mizz Bubba would have already personally destroyed the young pup.

Watch Obama talk about how America should use "soft power" in the war on terror:

Keyes vs. Obama, radio debate

13 posted on 05/23/2007 9:14:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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"Zogby: Obama Beats 'Rudy McRomney'"

That's irrelevant. None of those lefties have a chance. Duncan Hunter or Newt Gingrich will be our next President.
14 posted on 05/23/2007 9:15:26 PM PDT by familyop
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Thompson doesn’t have the appeal of Reagan to draw from across the political spectrum, especially not in the current atmosphere. There will be no landslide for Thompson or any other candidate from the GOP. In all honesty, after 8 years of Bush, and an unpopular war, we’ll be lucky to win regardless of who the candidate is.


15 posted on 05/23/2007 9:18:28 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: Ol' Sparky

This poll is suspect. Many Demonrats would sooner vote for she-who-must-not-be-named instead of Obama.


16 posted on 05/23/2007 9:20:11 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: Ol' Sparky
Right now, Obama does not have the negatives Hillary! has and Edwards is rapidly collecting.

It would be a very different race if Obama was the nominee. He is a lightweight, and as such risks a serious stumble.

Remember in late 2003 everyone thought Howard Dean had the nomination locked up, and Kerry was a lost cause.

That said, I think an Obama/Richardson ticket would easily win. All the Democrats have to do to win is to win the states they did in 2004, and turn Ohio to the D column. Not hard to do at all.

The Republicans have to nominate someone who can keep the close win states, and turn enough close loss states to overcome an Ohio loss, which seems likely.

The status quo will not win for the Republicans in 2008.

17 posted on 05/23/2007 9:20:32 PM PDT by magellan
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To: familyop
Let's hope it's not Newt. He'll co-opt all the leftist propaganda, declare it to be his own; offer solutions to non-existent problems that he claims are "marketplace solutions" (he says that to appease the folks like me who are crying foul) that are actually government using the tax code to manipulate behavior.

Hunter or Tancredo, Tancredo or Hunter. Our best shot for a decent four years comes from these two candidates.

18 posted on 05/23/2007 9:21:33 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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The Republicans have to nominate someone who can keep the close win states, and turn enough close loss states to overcome an Ohio loss, which seems likely.

I'd be interested to know how you think the Republicans turn close states? What candidate or type of candidate do you think can do it?

19 posted on 05/23/2007 9:24:04 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: Grunthor

I agree. I like Fred alot. I do not trust Zogby polls. He way off during the last election. Someone must stop the Soros control over the Dems and the media. It really is obvious that NBC, MSNBC and ABC have all gone to the Dems side. The pressure of the antiwar left has influenced our local affiliates, the daily breaks for news at the half hour and hour.
In Connecticut tonight the local covered the Coast Guard Graduation with film of the Code Pink crowd out there. We know that the GOE crowd was on the other side of the street and it was obvious they had film but cut it out. Just awful


20 posted on 05/23/2007 9:29:14 PM PDT by mojo114
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