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Graduates unprepared for college academics
THE GAZETTE ^ | May 21, 2007 | BRIAN NEWSOME

Posted on 05/23/2007 2:59:55 PM PDT by george76

Remedial classes await.

Thousands of Colorado high schoolers are graduating this month with plans to go to college in the fall.

Hundreds of them will be academically unprepared when they get there.

Those students will take — and pay for — remedial classes that don’t count toward a degree.

Educators say the need for remedial work is fueled largely by a lack of communication between high schools and colleges about what’s important to know. They also say high school students need to pay closer attention to class selection and grades, especially in the senior year when many coast toward graduation day. And, some say, high school should be more rigorous.

About 30 percent of recent high school graduates who went to Colorado’s public colleges last year were assigned to remedial courses in at least one subject, the report said. The number rose to about 56 percent at two-year colleges.

Nearly 61 percent of students were assigned to remedial classes at Pikes Peak Community College.

Even in the Pikes Peak region’s top-performing high schools, as many as 20 to 30 percent of graduates needed remedial help in college.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: classes; college; highschool; highschoolers; illiteracy; letarekidswalk; publicschools; publikskoolz; remedial; remedialclasses; school; schools
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To: napscoordinator

Have you seen posts 52, 55, and 88? Not to mention others who have had success at homeschooling?

Wife Swap? Give me a break. The family are idiots. If that’s what you’re using as evidence against homeschooling, you’re pretty desperate and it gives you no credibility.

The abysmal condition of the vast majority of public schools academically, socially, safety wise, is enough of a reason to homeschool, regardless of some weirdos. There’s a family much like that in our community where the only difference is that the kids goes to public school. Shall we use that as an indictment against public schoolers?

So they managed to dig up some nut cases and portray them as homeschoolers. Big deal. Nutjobs like that are certainly not a reason to avoid homeschooling, because becoming a homeschooler will not turn you into that kind of person.


221 posted on 05/29/2007 6:08:09 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: napscoordinator

BTW, read the article. It alone gives plenty of reason to homeschool.


222 posted on 05/29/2007 6:09:19 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: napscoordinator

Thats the truth!
At one school last year,three out of the seven security guards were fired for using”excessive force”


223 posted on 05/29/2007 7:44:39 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: metmom

How do you suppose I have read these posts you listed when I was off to another thread. Anyway, it does not matter what you think of Wife Swap is not the point...you obviously were homeschooled. My point is that this is what people are seeing not FREE REPUBLIC. Get it? Oh no. I love homeschooling children. It gets people away from the public school. I personally think that Catholic School is the route to go but it is a personal choice.


224 posted on 05/29/2007 8:25:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: napscoordinator

LOL. I’m way too old to have been homeschooled. Try again.

Wife Swap is hardly an authoritative source on homeschooling, but you were the one who brought it up and used it as evidence against homeschooling. I didn’t start that. One weird case out of the millions who successfully homeschool. So what?

Anyway, the point of the article is that public schools are inadequately preparing kids for college. I saw it over twenty years ago when I went back to finish up my degree now my daughter is still seeing it at college. Nothing has changed. The failure of the public school system is enough of a reason to homeschool and just another one we homeschoolers use; one of many, all valid.


225 posted on 05/29/2007 8:45:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: george76
Duh.

High school graduates aren't prepared for college and college graduates aren't prepared for real life.

A bit "thank you" to the liberal education system.

226 posted on 05/29/2007 8:49:11 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: metmom

Your right. I was just having some fun. Trust me, Everyone on FR who are great people...all of us know that the public school stink and really hate the fact that we still have to pay for them even though most don’t even use them. Have a great day!!! Wife Swap is a stupid tv show that actually is very embarassing for the families.


227 posted on 05/29/2007 10:19:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: adopt4Him
i know hundreds of homeschooled kids, and i only know personally of two kids (from the same family — not a very motivated one) who were unprepared academically for college (and still haven’t attended). A huge majority of homeschooling families have college prep as their single motivation and goal. You’re not going to find too many homeschoolers who are graduating high school and flipping burgers or working at the mall. Not like there’s anything wrong with that. 8-) i’m single and homeschool four.

I sure hope that you aren't the one teaching your children typing. You do know that you capitalize the letter I. It's not cute or a 'style', it's just stupid and makes your posts not worth reading.

228 posted on 05/29/2007 11:09:03 AM PDT by Rita Hayworth (Only God can make a tree but only man can drive past it at 130 mph.)
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To: carton253

You guys hung around Lucianne too long. If someone bugs you, you ignore them. You don’t try to silence them.

If you stop responding to them, they will quit replying to you. It’s the beauty of an open forum


229 posted on 05/29/2007 11:14:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: carton253

BTW I didn’t mean you personally. I was using the corporate “you”. My bad


230 posted on 05/29/2007 11:15:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
This isn't about anyone being silenced. No one is taking away a person's computer or internet access. No one is breaking fingers so a person can no longer type.

It's about common courtesy. If someone asks you not to post to them... why not just respect that. What is so hard about that?

231 posted on 05/29/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by carton253 (I've cried tears and stayed the same.)
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To: carton253

Because I cannot possibly remember who is on my “Do Not Post To Me” list. I rarely respond to people based on their name. I respond to what they say, not who they are. Most of the time, I don’t even look at the name. I hate to think that I will have to scrutinze every name in case I am not allowed to post to them.

I don’t recall this behavior in previous years here at FR. It smacks of controlling behavior. I even had a moderator tell me not to post to someone because they went crying to the moderators. That is SO unFR.

It’s almost like they can’t control themselves not to respond so they want me to change my behavior to suit them. That’s kinda strange.

It’s like a student coming to the university and demanding remedial classes because they were too lazy to catch up before school. Trust me. It happens A LOT. “Why should I give up my lifeguard job to go to summer school? The college should catch me up so I don’t have to be responsible”.


232 posted on 05/29/2007 11:47:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Oh please... this incident is not that complicated. On this very thread, a FReeper was asked by another Freeper not to post to them anymore. Instead of just respecting that request and posting to the others on the thread... the Freeper went into "what should I do. What is the etiquette. I have only been here two years and I don't know what to do in this case? Should should I ask a moderator to intercede between us?"

That was what I was responding to. That whiny, "I don't know what to do..." Here's what you do. Pretend your mother taught you manners and just don't post to them.

No one is talking about controlling behavior or remembering a "don't post to me list" over days. No one is asking you to change yourself to suit anyone. No one is asking to scrutinize a list.

It was a request. As for the rest of your post... please. Since when its UnFR like just to exercise some common courtesy.

233 posted on 05/29/2007 12:07:13 PM PDT by carton253 (I've cried tears and stayed the same.)
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To: Rita Hayworth

you are mean and rude. everyone uses shorthand on the net....

sad....


234 posted on 05/29/2007 12:38:22 PM PDT by adopt4Him (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: adopt4Him

Read this entire thread, it’s only you. I am not mean or rude, I am just one who understands the rules of english and grammar and therefore understand that people judge you by what you write and how you communicate.

Since you choose to communicate like a 4 year old you will be read as such.


235 posted on 05/29/2007 1:41:17 PM PDT by Rita Hayworth (Only God can make a tree but only man can drive past it at 130 mph.)
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To: metmom
Anyway, the point of the article is that public schools are inadequately preparing kids for college.

Maybe the point of the article ought to be the colleges that are admitting students who aren't prepared, so that they can get those tuition dollars.

If students who weren't prepared weren't allowed in, maybe more students would work harder in high school.

I had a student several years ago who was not taking college prep courses, and scored under 500 on her SAT. (That's what she said her combined SAT score was. This was before the essay part was added in, but I didn't know one could score that low.)

SHE WAS ACTUALLY ADMITTED TO A COLLEGE! The other teachers and I could not believe it. I have no idea whether or not she needed remedial courses, or if she is still in college.

236 posted on 05/29/2007 2:51:52 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: RKBA Democrat
There isn’t the same opportunity to move to a “better” school district 15 minutes away as there would be in other states.

A number of people have moved to nearby Bryan and Effingham counties because of the schools, but I'll grant you that not everyone can, or chooses to, do that.

I think the Catholic boys' school is run by the diocese, but I'm not positive of that.

237 posted on 05/29/2007 2:55:41 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia

I guess you get points for breathing.


238 posted on 05/29/2007 2:56:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: george76

Socialism does not work well. It often leads to declining value - less benefit received for the money spent. That has certainly been the case with education. Private schools, vouchers, home schooling are all valid alternatives. But when it comes to spending the public’s money, vouchers are the way to go.


239 posted on 05/29/2007 3:02:23 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Sovereignty and freedom require secure borders)
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To: Rita Hayworth

lady, you have too much time on your hands...

FR has gone downhill with the personal attacks and name calling...

u r sad...


240 posted on 05/29/2007 3:17:53 PM PDT by adopt4Him (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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