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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Why, then, are our elites taking it?”


I have been asking the same question....i don’t have a pat answer for it....it’s either all politics or some unforseen goal.


3 posted on 05/21/2007 11:59:25 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: teldon30
They are 'elite' only in position, but in behavior they are sub human. It is their lust for greed and self preservation, not for the betterment of their country and to serve their citizens that they 'take it'.

The only way to insure these men do not follow through on their baser instincts is to threaten them with the two things that they will do anything to preserve--threaten the end of their job (power) or just take it away and put them in a position never to profit. Since there seems little to prevent the latter we must push for the former and not flinch. Period.

Would we just let someone come into our home and take everything we have worked hard for and push around and eradicate the future of those we love with out a fight? I wouldn't. These 'elites'--the self serving putz(es)--need a gun to their heads and clear direction from us the people of the United States of America. That gun is the threat or loss of their jobs if they don't amend the foreign born law to exclude illegal entry parents and two ship em all out, every last one they can grab the scruff of. We seriously need to secure our borders. We let people in, in a legal timely process that includes the path to citizenship, which additionally includes learning English, American history as it was taught in the 60's not by some liberal, 'Marxist's rise up' latest interpretation, and they need to take civil classes and be tested on the subject matter regarding the United States of America.

Unless that foreign born law is addressed we will always have serious problems. Also a new study by the Heritage Foundation showed that illegals on average got basically $19,000 a year from the government. What American would not like to have a gift of $19,000 a year from another country that we invaded and pooed on their soil and society? Nope. This game stops here. It is fight time folks.

7 posted on 05/22/2007 12:23:47 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: teldon30

The elites benefit. Period.


30 posted on 05/22/2007 4:51:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: teldon30

For the same reason that hundreds of whites imported thousands and thousands of black slaves in the 1600s, 1700s and early 1800’s and the Spanish Dons thought they could indefnitely rule millions of enserfed peons of Mestizo, black and Indian origin - with impugnity.

Myopic greed and elitism.


97 posted on 05/22/2007 10:09:58 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: teldon30

“In every way possible, Americans have said they do not want to take this risk with their country. Why, then, are our elites taking it?”

Because they are elites, and don’t give a rat’s ass about those who aren’t.


136 posted on 05/22/2007 7:59:20 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders?!! We don' need no stinking borders!!")
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To: teldon30
I have been asking the same question....i don’t have a pat answer for it....it’s either all politics or some unforseen goal.

I think that's the real undercurrent in this whole situation. The pols mouth platitudes as to why they're doing this, but everybody seems to know that what they're saying isn't the real reason...and they don't trust any of this an inch because they aren't being told the real reasons.

Compassion? Path to citizenship? Better life? BLAH! Nobody believes that government works that way, especially at warp speed under cover of darkness like they're trying to do with this bill. We all have our suspicions...but there are so many dirty motives behind all this that they have to remain unexpressed-- and that's why NO ONE trusts any of this.

194 posted on 05/24/2007 2:36:38 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: teldon30

No one answer
Some answers:

***Pandering to business lobbies—both Dem and Repub. It is a myth that Repubs are big business exclusively. Look at the business holdings of Feinstein and Pelosi.

***Wanting more victim class voters. Preferring a dumbed down constituency.

***Many religious people saying “we are called to help the downtrodden.” They can’t separate religious obligations and state obligations.

vaudine


210 posted on 06/16/2007 11:07:55 PM PDT by vaudine
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