[Barnacle]

Haha! So economics is a "Marxist" science, huh?

No. That's not what I said. Please don't put words in my mouth in your sad attempt at a straw man argument. These posts are easily viewed by anyone interested. So, it's really not too swift to claim someone said something he did not.

I said, "As for economics, Marxist love to define things that way."

In other words, Marxists love to look at the economic rationale of a situation rather than the moral or ethical perspective.

The fact that illegal immigrants are coming here for "economic" reasons, is no more a justification than it is for someone burglarizing your house.

If we are to survive, the rule of law, rather than economics must prevail.

As for your, "You're an idiot." comment... No offense taken. I consider the source.

[billybudd]

In other words, Marxists love to look at the economic rationale of a situation rather than the moral or ethical perspective.

So, in other words, economics is a Marxist science, since looking at things from an economic perspective is Marxist.

As for straw man arguments, I'm not "justifying" illegal immigration on economic grounds. I'm pointing out that no solution that ignores the economics of the situation will work. As long as there is an economic incentive to come here, illegals will continue to pour in, regardless of any barriers you try to set up. Only solutions that eliminate this economic incentive will work, and I suggest: eliminating welfare, health care, housing, and jobs for illegals. Effective in keeping illegals out and giving the ones already here incentive to self-deport.