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3/11: The Incompetence Theory
EL MUNDO - Libertad Digital ^ | 20 May 2007 | J Aguilar

Posted on 05/20/2007 11:27:50 AM PDT by J Aguilar

Well, we finally have the conclusions of the report asked by Judge Gómez-Bermúdez about the explosives used in the 3/11 massacre. As this humble Spanish citizen has been broadcasting from the trenches of Freedom in Spain, his Honour named a team composed by eight experts, four officials (two from the National Police and two others from the paramilitary law enforcement corps, the Civil Guard) and other four private experts proposed by the private accusations and defences’ attorneys.

However, as it was already leaked, the new report does not clarify the question of which was the weapon of the crime in the 3/11 attacks:

- Three of the four private forensic experts state that DNT (dinitro toluene) and NG (nitro glycerine) were found in one explosion scene, whilst DNT was detected in all the samples coming from the rest of them. Goma-2 ECO, the explosive used in the attack according to the Official Conspiracy Version supported by the Socialists and the MSM worldwide, contains no such components, whilst French Titadyn, used by ETA does. Therefore, those three forensic experts agree that is probable that Titadyn was used.

- Nevertheless, the two National Police experts attribute such presence of DNT to a “contamination” of the samples. In the first leaks on the report, it seems they blamed a contamination in the manufacturing process, but further analyses have proven that Goma-2 ECO contains no DNT at all, just as its manufacturer certifies. The Contamination Theory moved then towards its storage in Mina Conchita, the alleged source of the explosives. However, those allegations were also discarded. Now the official experts endorse a contamination by DNT in vapour phase in their own storage facilities and laboratories, that is, when they were under custody.

- The other two official experts, from the Civil Guard, adopt a middle stance, acknowledging that DNT was found in the samples coming from the trains, but also agreeing that they might not have been kept in adequate containers, without entering in further discussions.

However, some of the experts designed by the private accusations and defences, denounce that this Contamination Theory has no scientific base unless it is pointed out when, how or with what the samples could have been contaminated.

We must remember that DNT has been removed from Spanish dynamites since 2000 because it is highly toxic and carcinogenic.

The three private forensic experts also complain that the samples provided are insufficient - for some explosion scenes there was only one sample to analyze - that the chain of custody was inexistent, so they cannot guarantee from where those samples came, and that collaboration in further investigations was denied, such as access to the places where the samples had been allegedly contaminated to carry out ambient analyses.

As a conclusion, the new report on the explosive used in 3/11, the first with legal value in the case, shows that the Spanish Security Forces cannot prove that Goma-2 ECO was used in the attack and opens the possibility to the utilization of ETA’s Titadyn.

It further portrays the incomprehensible continuous incompetence of the Spanish Security Forces, which admit that the few remaining samples of the biggest massacre in our history have been contaminated in their own facilities, with precisely the most prevalent component of Titadyn, ETA’s preferred explosive.

Moreover, the inability to link the Goma-2 ECO to the trains of death further weakens the State accusation in the 3/11 trial: the weapon of the crime cannot be linked to defendants, they did not have the opportunity, because they lacked technical and political knowledge, and finally most of them had no motivation, as the life of Jamal Ahmidan well portrays.

Not by chance, hours later these conclusions were published, ETA revealed that they have been meeting Socialist party officials 25 times, before and after 3/11. As Luis del Pino asks himself in his blog:

ETA continues cornering Zapatero. Gara [Basque newspaper close to ETA] reveals today that there have been 25 meetings before and after 3/11 with the Spanish Socialist Workers Party, which better explains what has been happening in Spain since March 11th.

The most worrying thing of this episode is to think about the reasons that could have existed to carry out those meetings before 3/11. In the ETA side, one can easily figure out the interests of the group: they were cornered, decimated, infiltrated, isolated and ruined, so, why don’t look for a lifeboat somewhere?

However, what were the Socialist Party reasons? What interests did they have to talk with a terrorist group that was ailing? What could a band in terminal state offer to the Socialist Party as a compensation for the negotiation?

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By J Aguilar,

Such incomprehensible continuous incompetence in a case that changed the government of Spain can only bring any rational being to the conclusion that it is simply a part of a cover-up.

Further, this turns, after three years and two months in jail and even though the evidence against him has been toppled, Jamal Zougam, the Muslim whose detention changed the result of the Spanish National Elections, into a political prisoner: he cannot be released because that would delegitimate Zapatero’s victory.

So much complaining about Franco, so much complaining about Guantánamo… when the Left has political prisoners!

BTW no more prestigious media can argue that there is no evidence of ETA involvement in 3/11, as they have done before, without joining such incompetence theory.

More 3/11 here:
Search @ Freerep
A summary of news @ Fondodocumental

More data on 3/11 in Spanish here:
Luis del Pino's blog
Kickjor's blog

The latest Luis del Pino TV program on the trial here @ Youtube

You may also watch Las Sombras del 11-M, broadcasted last fall in Telemadrid. A bit outdated but still a good resume of the contradictions of the Official Conspiracy Version on 3/11.

You can also download the conclusions of the new report of the explosive used in 3/11 here.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 11march; 311; spain; terrorism

1 posted on 05/20/2007 11:27:53 AM PDT by J Aguilar
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To: JerseyHighlander; Incorrigible; Tolik; GladesGuru; marron; .cnI redruM; livius; billorites; Wiz; ...
More 3/11.

What proves all this is that Hayek was right and that Socialism leads inevitably towards Totalitarism.
2 posted on 05/20/2007 11:31:09 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: All; J Aguilar

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NEVER FORGET

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The Man Who Predicted 9/11 =

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9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, ..R.I.P.

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361

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NEVER FORGET

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3 posted on 05/20/2007 11:40:55 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: J Aguilar

I’m confused.

Is the theory then that Islamists weren’t responsible?

They sure claimed credit awfully quickly.


4 posted on 05/20/2007 11:42:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Islamist were not responsible, truly Islamist would have commited suicide on the trains, which grants them access to their heaven.

There were no Islamists. Moreover, as the components of an explosive used by ETA have been detected, it is probable that they, Basque terrorists, were the reponsible of the massacre.

The rest was pure manipulation from the Left in order to topple Aznar’s right wing government.


5 posted on 05/20/2007 11:57:40 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Sherman Logan
Is the theory then that Islamists weren’t responsible?

That would be a most stupid conclusion, unless it is first established that the monitoring of all legal explosive is 100% competent.

A most foolish assumption.

If nothing else, sandmaggots have proven themselves extremely competent at getting explosives and weapons from all sources.

6 posted on 05/20/2007 12:05:12 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961; Sherman Logan

Unfortunately, the Official Conspiracy Version is based in detailed informations regarding Goma-2 ECO obtained from a mine in the Spanish region of Asturias. No Titadyn from France can be linked to the scapegoats. The weapon of the crime cannot be put on the defendants hands. The Official Conspiracy Version cannot be widen to include Titadyn.

The Truth is shiny but hard as reinforced concrete.


7 posted on 05/20/2007 12:12:59 PM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Bump


8 posted on 05/20/2007 12:26:56 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Ahtisaari, give Sapmi it's independence! Free the Sami!!!)
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To: J Aguilar

The sad thing is that the security forces and their experts probably did do, or are capable of doing, their job. Cretins with politically motivated agendas are just getting in their way and as such the security forces are left looking like ghoulish incompetents. For all we know, the truth is in files deep-buried in the SF’s own archives.


9 posted on 05/20/2007 2:14:59 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: J Aguilar
However, what were the Socialist Party reasons? What interests did they have to talk with a terrorist group that was ailing? What could a band in terminal state offer to the Socialist Party as a compensation for the negotiation?

1. To swing an 11th hour electional coup by making it appear that the Aznar government deliberately gave false info the the voters.

2. To use them in the above deception.

3.Power (if I'm reading the question correctly)

I've read the Socialist Party was at ready and mobilized after the attack to take to the airwaves and streets while Aznar declarated that ETA was behind the attack. Then conveniently, AQ steps in to claim responsibility and the readied machine sprung into action. I recall reading the flyers and tv accusations against Aznar were relentless.

I remember having a VERY bad feeling all day during their elections, a premoniton Aznar would be swept from office. I wish I'd been dead wrong. ;^(

10 posted on 05/21/2007 3:39:43 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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To: tanuki; prairiebreeze
Indeed, tanuki. Many Spanish civil servants, such as the gallant ones that denounced the manipulations on the Boric Acid report in order to avoid naming ETA in the 3/11 case, are competent and honest.

The problem, as Hayek already pointed out in 1944 in his book Road to Serfdom is that in Socialist political systems such people is left aside as it evolves into Totalitarism.

Aznar was elected in his last term with a full majority that gave him the possibility to reform the system, but he did not proceed. 200 people paid for such mistake with their lives.

prairebreeze,

That's it. ETA put on the desk a three digit figure of deaths, and others used them to carry out the coup.

I've read the Socialist Party was at ready and mobilized after the attack to take to the airwaves and streets while Aznar declarated that ETA was behind the attack. Then conveniently, AQ steps in to claim responsibility and the readied machine sprung into action. I recall reading the flyers and tv accusations against Aznar were relentless.

Yes, after the attack came the coup, and the coup was mainly a media manipulation of the public opinion, at national and international level. Was it prepared in advance? Some people in Luis del Pino's blog wondered how the Socialist party was able to print so many banners in so short time. Zapatero, for the elections, began using the acronym "ZP". When 3/11 happened, Socialist party followers flooded the demonstrations with banners with the word "PAZ" (peace), blaming from one side the war on Iraq for the attack, and then, putting many of such banners together, they got: "PAZ PAZ PAZ PAZ PAZ PAZ PAZ", which was a subliminal message before the voting day.

The media side of coup is well documented, and there is no mystery behind it.

BTW, Aznar never openly blamed ETA. Aznar usually don't say the word "ETA", he calls them "the terrorists" or "the murderers", as he did in the morning of 3/11. On the other hand, Zapatero blamed ETA, naming it, that same morning. That is documented.

What was said by Interior Minister Acebes was that the National Police had informed him that what it went off was Titadyn reinforced with denotating cord, and therefore, ETA was the main suspect of the attack.

Seven hours after the attack, a tape with coranic teachings and some rests of Goma-2 ECO were found in a van parked near a train station of the line attacked. Then it began the public opinion intoxication.

BTW, the coranic tape is lost and has not appeared in the trial, and the Goma-2 ECO rests, from which we don't have even a picture, contained methenamine, so having a different composition from the one the scapegoats allegedly sourced.

Did those evidences ever exist or they were simply fictions and a laboratory sample analysis included in a police report then malevolently leaked to the media?

Moreover, Al Qaeda did not claim responsability of the attack at that point, but the Abu Hafs Al Masri brigades. National Police officers had acknowledged in the 3/11 trial that they don't know of any terrorist claiming to belonging to such brigades being arrested anywhere in the world.

Do those "brigades" really exist? I doubt so.

Those are some excerpts of the case. I don't have time to translate everything but, believe me, the Official Conspiracy Version of 3/11 cannot be swallowed by any rational being.
11 posted on 05/21/2007 7:51:20 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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