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To: John Jorsett

I don’t believe most of this report. I believe this is another attempt to build sympathy for illegals.


3 posted on 05/20/2007 10:56:45 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

it said she was a California native.


5 posted on 05/20/2007 10:59:40 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABELER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: calex59

Illegal or not(it didn’t say that she was) hospital neglect does happen, and I’ve heard countless tales of other situations such as this one.


14 posted on 05/20/2007 11:04:14 AM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative
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Having worked for yours in the Emergency Room of several large hospitals, I don't see it happening as told here, either. Of course there are things left out of the story.

I can tell you that so many of the people who use the ER as their doctor's office do learn to work the system. I can remember people walking in and faking heart attacks just to get to the front of the line--when, in actuality, they were suffering from some ailment like a sore throat. It's a very hard call, sometimes-and the fact that the lady had already been there 3 times that day tells me that A: the doctors who saw her misdiagnosed her or B: Something about her had given the ER personnel the idea that she wasn't really sick, that she was gaming the system, for whatever reason.

Either way, it's too bad the lady died---and will be interesting to see what the autopsy shows. If the ER personnel were negligent and either misdiagnosed or failed to diagnose what her problem was, that can be held against them. They will have to be able to show that the right tests were run, and that the results of the tests didn't show anything threatening.

19 posted on 05/20/2007 11:08:42 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: calex59
A direct copy/paste from the story on the L.A. Times web site:

"Rodriguez, a California native, performed odd jobs and lived alternately with different relatives."

Why would you assume that the article is to garner sympathy and support for illegals if the poor woman, who was treated as an inconvenience, is a CA native?

20 posted on 05/20/2007 11:10:04 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The World-Famous, popular DJ and FReeper Canteen Certified, Equal-Opportunity, Male-Chauvinist-Pig!)
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To: calex59

It’s called propaganda.


21 posted on 05/20/2007 11:10:09 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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Sad to say this South Central Los Angeles hospital has a long history of unbelievably horrible incidents, which is why their accreditation was yanked in the first place after multiple warnings. This was a case of neighborhood “feelgoodism” over competence, with both the local politicians and community refusing to hear criticism of “their” hospital until it was way too late.

I’ve been in the ER and dealt with people who complain and seem to have nothing wrong, even scream and shout that they are being discriminated against or refused care because they’re not getting exactly what they decided they want. Yes, it is very irritating. However, my cardinal rule is: “If they annoy me, work them up twice as carefully” because otherwise I’m going to miss something someday because I’m irritated at the patient. I’ve gritted my teeth through it many times, but also blessed that rule a time or two - kept me from dismissing someone with a serious problem that took some digging to find.


29 posted on 05/20/2007 11:12:56 AM PDT by retMD
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Why do you think she is illegal ...

do you have ANY evidence to back up your claim?


45 posted on 05/20/2007 11:23:34 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: calex59

I am also gathering more data. I don’t trust the LA Times. There are going to be details that flesh this out. Until then, it appears one way, but there surely might be more.


66 posted on 05/20/2007 11:59:28 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: calex59
I don’t believe most of this report. I believe this is another attempt to build sympathy for illegals.

You may have a very valid point.

85 posted on 05/20/2007 12:30:16 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: calex59

I believe your right. like they claimed those babies of the jailed illegals when those Swift companies were raided, were admitted to the hospital with pneumonia, malnutrition, etc because they were taken from their mothers. Bill O’Rielly followed up on this and it turned out not to be true. Just lies made up by the New York Times.


129 posted on 05/20/2007 9:08:24 PM PDT by beckysueb
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To: calex59
I don’t believe most of this report. I believe this is another attempt to build sympathy for illegals.

Shame on you!

You don't know that and even if is true, no child of God would let her die!

134 posted on 05/21/2007 6:16:38 AM PDT by restornu (Seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. "Mitt-? 08")
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To: calex59

I believe it.
I’ve seen nurses like that.

There’s nothing in the article suggesting she was an illegal.

My brother-in-law’s last name is “Gomez” and he’s perfectly legal...don’t make assumptions based on the last name.


138 posted on 05/21/2007 6:38:52 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: calex59

This is the worst hospital on the JCAHO list; they haven’t had full accreditation since it was newly formed and now has none at all.


172 posted on 05/24/2007 8:02:00 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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