Senate Continues to Bypass We-The-People

News By Us ^ | May 20,2007 | Sher Zieve

[Fedupwithit]

It’s getting really close to the time to start melting down the plowshares...

[Publius6961]

Senate Continues to Bypass We-The-People

Elections are coming soon.
That's what elections are for.

If the voters keep electing self-enriching doofuses, that's the government we deserve.

Next news item...

[TigersEye]

This bill will solve the problem. The politician’s problem that is. Once signed into law there will no longer be any “illegal aliens” or “illegal immigrants.” It will no longer, technically, be a lie to call them “undocumented immigrants.” Viola! a stroke of the pen and they will all correctly and legally be “undocumented immigrants” and “citizens-in-waiting.” Problem solved; no one will be able to use the terms “illegal aliens” or “illegal immigrants” any longer as, technically, they won’t be and this new talking point will be end-of-discussion and cover for all the cowardly pols.

[TigersEye]

If you’re really into self-reliance you’ll start with iron ore and saltpeter deposits. ;^)

[mewzilla]

If the voters keep electing self-enriching doofuses....

Paging Congress....

Write on: Barletta knocks Marsicano off ballot

'Rats went out of their way to vote for Barletta....

[ca centered]

Sadly I am getting convinced that would be the answer. But sadly again, I don’t think it will happen. Americans are use to getting boiled slowly. Once this passes we’re cooked. The congress is our only hope. Let your congressman they aren’t getting off the hook this time. This is depressing and completely insane. The BAS**RDS!

[DCPatriot]

[DCPatriot]

IMO, the Republican Party has been painted into a corner and is really screwed.

For...no matter how much contorting the GOP does in their attempts to placate the Right...Madame President Hillary Clinton will...with a stoke of a pen...grant a pardon and forgive all owed fines and penalties written into the legislation...thus cementing the vast majority of Hispanics as good Democrats.

That is what's on the horizon.

[Dahoser]

It's a common occurrence across the country which is why I continually say in these parts that if a bad Constitutional amendment comes up like allowing naturalized citizens to run for President, we're screwed. Ditto for those who believe the road to reform lies in reversing the 17th amendment. The state legislatures are doing whatever they please, the people be damned.

Of course, the people are very much to blame for being damned because they don't vote these clymers out. They don't understand that participatory government means their participation includes paying attention to what their votes do, not sitting at home waiting for the MSM to tell them how they're supposed to think.

[Right Brother]

The election in 2008 will be real interesting.

Problem is, conservatives will be pissed (and rightly so), not vote and then what? It's a death spiral.

[yoe]

At this juncture, our country is being legislated away from us by self-serving, politically ambitious and increasingly anti-democratic politicians.

Term Limits would have stopped some of this - next election? I hope so. Meanwhile, why are "we the people" allowing men like Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Dick Durbin, John McCain etc. bully us into submission over an obvious bad piece of legislation that Senator Kyl had this to say:

"From my perspective, it's not perfect, but it represents the best opportunity that we have in a bipartisan way to do something about this problem. And if we had not gotten together as Republicans and Democrats to develop this bipartisan consensus, we can be assured that there would not be a bill passed this year, and probably not next year," Kyl said."

There is no reason to pass any bill that is fraught with stupidity. Not voting for your party in the next election is no solution - the problem is now and the action is NOW and up to "We The People" to somehow get this stupid worked over Kennedy bill tabled.

Close our borders now!
Start the work of weeding out the felons and deporting them - no jail time on the taxpayer's backs.
Stop giving sustenance to the felon's children via education and medical help.
Demand our Laws on immigration be enforced and then enforce them across the nation.
Don’t stop calling your elected urging them, nay, demanding they obey the United States Constitution and our laws.
Ted Kennedy has too much power as do those who have served longer than eight years in either congress or the senate. TERM LIMITS are a must for every elected servant of the people.

End this madness with your phone calls, fax’s and e-mails.

THIS KENNEDY, MCCAIN BILL IS A MESS – DO NOT LET IT PASS!

[Popman]

IMO, the Republican Party has been painted into a corner and is really screwed.

I might have a little sympathy for them if they weren't the ones holding the paint brushes

As for being screwed: "leadership" can get them out of the hot seat.

Unfortunately, the GOP is bereft of leadership. Unprincipled RINO's and corruption have neutered the party

It's time to throw the bums out and start fresh

[socialismisinsidious]

We’re no longer of any real import to the ones we elected. And, until we take to the streets as have illegal immigrants and their racist supporters, my guess is that Congress will continue to pay little-to-no attention to us.

This is true and it all began the day WE allowed them to withhold, tax US without accountability or responsibility. The heart of their power is the 60K page joke of a tax code.

[Condor51]

There's one tiny point in this Bill_sh*t that hasn't been addressed by either side - except that is for the general stink illegals themselves and the 'activists' have raised about the bill itself -- That the illegals have to pass a criminal background check.

The big brouhaha in the MSM seems to be over the $5.00 fine (sarc) they have to pay and not the criminal background check.

Those 'criminal' illegals are exempt from getting the Z Visa and if we are to believe Dubya and Chertoff they will be deported - period, end, stop.

Now, since a great percentage of illegals have already BEEN caught AND deported, or ordered by a court to be deported at least once - they fall into this 'criminal' classification and are therefore exempt. This exclusion also pertains to all repeat drunk drivers - another great percentage of illegal Males. Then we get into all the convicted Felons in our jails and prisons.

So, IF all is true, instead of 12 million illegals (25 mill is more like it IMO) getting this free pass and flooding our country. When all is said and done, about thirty Mexicans and one Guatemalan will meet the 'non criminal' requirements.

THAT is why IMO the illegals and the 'activists' are raising hell and want complete unqualified 'amnesty'. They know that finger prints don't lie and 99.9992% ARE 'criminals' under the law and do not qualify. Everyone of them if caught will be deported so this Bill does absolutely nothing for them.

That is, IF we are to believe Dubya, Chertoff and Congress.

[Popman]

Problem is, conservatives will be pissed (and rightly so), not vote and then what? It's a death spiral.

No, I'm not pissed, I'm over it.

I will be voting, voting my principles.

If a GOP candidate lines up with my principles, they will get my vote, If not. Oh well.

I AM DONE PUTTING gutless, feckless pseudo conservatives in office only to be pissed on.