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Live Thread of World Championship Boxing Middleweights(Taylor Vs Spinks/Miranda vs Pavlik) on HBO
hbo ^ | 19 MAY 07 | dcbryan1

Posted on 05/19/2007 7:26:10 PM PDT by DCBryan1

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MIDDLEWEIGHT KINGS GO SLUMMING?

by William Dettloff

For those inclined to believe that a good big man will beat a good little man every time, the announcement that the middleweight champion is facing a welter or junior middleweight champ moving up is never good news. It means to him that the middleweight is slumming a bit, taking on a man whom he knows he will beat. Alas, many fans feel this way and groan instantly at the news. Unkind words will follow for the middleweight, who, the thinking goes, is most assuredly sinking to new, modern lows to which the middleweight kings of the past would never have stooped.

History is a great educator, of course, and reminds us that a great many of our middleweight heroes happily faced smaller guys, and several times came away from such pairings without the belt they had when they entered the ring. Indeed, it should be a comfort to us all that the outcomes were determined not by who was the bigger man but by who was the better one that night.

No less a member of the pantheon than the great middleweight Carlos Monzon deigned to face the best welterweight of the day when he met reigning 147-pound champion Jose Napoles in 1974 in Paris. Monzon already was a legend: he'd not lost a fight in 10 years, had won the title four years earlier by beating the excellent Nino Benvenuti, and had defended it eight times against the likes of Benvenuti, Emile Griffith and Bennie Briscoe.

Read more at:
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2007/0519_taylor_spinks/columns/dettoff_middleweight.html


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KEYWORDS: boxing; middleweight; spinks; taylor
Good luck Jermaine (Taylor)
1 posted on 05/19/2007 7:26:14 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1
The Miranda vs Pavlik fight should be good. Miranda has a heck of a story to tell coming from the slums of Columbia. He is very spiritual and humble.

Little Rock could have sent any number of thugish, anti-education, entitlement seeking boxers, but not Jermaine. Jermaine Taylor is very nice, thoughtful, caring and intelligent. He loves his fans and doesn't act like a fool like other well known boxers.

He has got to stay focused for Spinks who could claim his title.

This will be a refreshing fight tonight.

2 posted on 05/19/2007 7:30:35 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
Holy crap! Mods put this in chat in under a minute!

Maybe they should check and see that there was a HORSE RACE LIVE THREAD earlier?

You guys have some sort of double standard or just miss that one?

3 posted on 05/19/2007 7:35:15 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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LOL: Mods, thanks, you missed my point. Neither the horse race or this thread are really "breaking".

However, they both do NOT deserve to be moved to chat.

Thanks anyway, we are making progress!

..Whew...

grabbing TWO beers after that one.

BTW, Pavlik knocks out Miranda after 6 rounds and bad call by ref. (Put Miranda in mortal danger)

4 posted on 05/19/2007 8:04:00 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

The Ghost won!

Heck of a slug fest by Pavlik.


5 posted on 05/19/2007 8:40:34 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fence first! We can discuss the rest later.)
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To: NeoCaveman

Pavlik will fight Taylor if he can hold on to this “fight”.


6 posted on 05/19/2007 9:00:46 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1
Final round coming up!

Taylor: 106
Spinks: 103

The fans are booing, and so am I. Not enough punches being thrown.

7 posted on 05/19/2007 9:04:24 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1
This fight, like this thread, is anti-climatic. The officials are calling it a "dreadful" fight where two fighters are fighting like they don't want their hair messed up.

Here comes the score:
Taylor 116 WINNER
Spinks 112

Look for Taylor to fight a real man, Pavlik later this year.

Bad fight, Im going to bed.

Mods, you can move this to chat. Thanks again!

8 posted on 05/19/2007 9:10:36 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

This fight was a reason why UFC is taking over. A middleweight title fight and it was so boring. Very boring. I am glad I did not pay for this.


9 posted on 05/19/2007 9:12:37 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: CollegeRepublican

You have that right, geez not even a boxing match, much less a fight.


10 posted on 05/19/2007 9:20:17 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: DCBryan1

Only 1 week to go to Jackson/Liddell 2 :)


11 posted on 05/19/2007 9:22:48 PM PDT by SShultz460
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To: CollegeRepublican

MMA is taking over


12 posted on 05/19/2007 9:23:29 PM PDT by SShultz460
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To: DCBryan1

As a female why is this here?

Chat is for this stuff I always try to respect the News/Activism forum.

Thank you.


13 posted on 05/19/2007 9:28:47 PM PDT by restornu (Seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. "Mitt-? 08")
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To: restornu

Good question. Mods hijack my threads for some reasons and put them where they want. I did not want this (or the horserace thread) in breaking news, THEY put it there, but both did not deserve to be in chat (where threads go to die).


14 posted on 05/20/2007 7:44:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1
Good luck Jermaine (Taylor)

He's really gonna need it if he gets in the ring with Pavlik.....

15 posted on 05/21/2007 5:47:33 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: NeoCaveman
The Ghost won!

This wasn't a case of somebody beating the odds. This was a case of the oddsmakers not knowing what they were doing; Pavlik would win that fight eleven out of ten times.

16 posted on 05/21/2007 5:50:25 PM PDT by rickdylan
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I wish my bookie dealt boxing. I would have won that one.


17 posted on 05/21/2007 6:11:31 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fence first! We can discuss the rest later.)
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I’ll say one thing, I don’t fault Taylor for the way he fought Cory Spinks. In fact I don’t really know why a defending champion would ever feel he had to chase a guy like Spinks or Muhammed Ali. A challenger has to win decisively; you’d think a champion could simply tell one one of those guys something like “Hey, you’re either gonna come to me, or you’re going to lose a fifteen round decision in which nobody throws a punch, think it over....”


18 posted on 05/21/2007 6:29:58 PM PDT by rickdylan
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