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Illegal immigrants are not foreign diplomats, and we exercise jurisdiction over Palo Alto. The children of illegal immigrants derive their citizenship from the Fourteenth Amendment. If a diplomat commits a crime, then our courts cannot punish that diplomat because we lack jurisdiction over diplomats under international law. The Fourteenth Amendment language regarding birthright citizenship itself derives from English common law that makes all persons born in Britain subjects of the King. It exempts only three classes of persons—foreign diplomats with their obvious loyalty to the potentate that sent them; persons born to enemy foreign invaders; and American Indians not taxed and not subject to our jurisdiction because we then negotiated treaties with their tribes and nations.

Although the situation in certain cities and border towns might suggest severely otherwise, the United States presently exercises jurisdiction over its entire territory and has done so continuously since World War II. The illegal immigrants who constantly overwhelm our Southwestern border establish themselves in our country because we traditionally voluntarily choose not to exercise our jurisdiction over them with respect to immigration law, not because some treaty or other provision of international law prevents us from doing so. Mexico does not sponsor, arm, and equip the border-jumpers although its government condones and encourages intense emigration. The hordes streaming across the southwestern border therefore do not constitute an invading army within the strictures of international law.

The children therefore are Americans, and the article makes clear that none desires to remain in Mexico. They ironically even might not possess Mexican citizenship. Notwithstanding their obvious preference to return to America, I hereby suggest that they migrate within Mexico in search of some opportunity. Mexico actually does have some prosperous regions that embraced conservative economics and consequently recovered more fully from decades of communistic deprivations.


34 posted on 05/19/2007 3:20:59 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: dufekin
All that and not ONE word about the ORIGINAL intent of the amendment.
It ORIGINALY was intended by the framers to extend the jurisdiction and protection of federal courts to all rights recognized by the Constitution and Bill of Rights against actions by state government.
It was to bring ex-slaves into full citizenship, not 2/3 of a person. It would then extend all the rights and protections under the US Constitution to every person WHO IS A CITIZEN of the country. If you are NOT a citizen, those rights and protections are not extended to you.

“Jurisdiction” means “the power, right, or authority to interpret and apply the law : the limits or territory within which authority may be exercised.”

It JUST means WE can apply “the law” as we have interpreted it.
I do not believe the SCOTUS has EVER had before it, the question of the meaning of this issue. Maybe its time.

42 posted on 05/19/2007 3:46:13 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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