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Rush: Immigration Bill Will Kill GOP
NewsMax.com ^ | May 18, 2007 | staff

Posted on 05/18/2007 1:43:33 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: Paul Ross; Lonewolf
Let me remind you that I am all for sealing the Southern border...and yesterday would be soon enough.

My soft spot is for the illegal who has come into our country and...

1) behaved himself by not breaking any additional laws.
2) is gainfully employed
3) Is willing to comply with the steps necessary to become a citizen.
4) Makes an honest attempt to learn English.

I read an amazing reply statement from somebody on another site who I believe is also a FReeper, which summarizes my feelings.

He/she said:

"Surely you aren't complaining about it being too easy for a person to come forward and place himself on federal probation.

No, wait, don't tell me, let me guess; you want them to come forward and be placed in prison for a period of several years while proving themselves eligible for a Z visa. Right?"

Is that YOUR position?

321 posted on 05/22/2007 7:25:50 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
Let me remind you that I am all for sealing the Southern border...and yesterday would be soon enough.

Okay, first I have heard of that from you. At least its a start.

My soft spot is for the illegal who has come into our country and...(some are wonderful individuals...blah) (blah) (blah)

Soft-spot? I could say what is really soft...your logic. You miss that these sterling individuals who exhibit SOME good behavior... break our laws as their first act, and often further aid and abet others, and the mass of empirical evidence is that they also often help themselves ...whether employed or not...to the freebies available only for the destitute, draining our essential resources thereto. Not so harmless after all. And as far as "making an honest attempt to learn English"...don't you agree that we should be in a better position to routinely and effectively enforce that before they get here? This is why the legal immigration process must be upheld. Not the end-around.,. btw...we should also shut down the Spanish radio and cable stations so that we don't entrench the problem any worse. To accomplish this...we may need the English Language Constitutional Amendment. How do you stand on that?

you want them to come forward and be placed in prison for a period of several years while proving themselves eligible for a Z visa. Right?" Is that YOUR position?

Nope. A one-way ticket back home. Then let them get back in line, NO butt-inskies.

322 posted on 05/22/2007 9:33:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross
Nope. A one-way ticket back home. Then let them get back in line, NO butt-inskies.

THe national economy would tank...and the next thing we'd be hearing again from the Left is... "It's the economy stupid".

323 posted on 05/22/2007 9:41:20 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
The national economy would tank

Nope. We need to take the idled mass of American suppressed labor...disemployed, subemployed, and nonemployed..and let the Free Market Work.

First, I've got news for you. The housing market, your forte...is tanked already.

Second, it is a result of market interference.

Third, its presuming we can do it...i.e., enforce the law and evict them...which most of the White House, Rats and RINOs claim we can't possibly do...

Fourth, your opposition is a prescription for dependancy on lawlessness and an underclass. Let's Stop the Alcoholic dependancy here...and the class warfare from the White House. Hence, terminate Bush's and Kennedy's interference in the market with their illegals.

How much will wages and U.S. employment in the effected sectors rebound with the sudden displacement? I have faith...in God, and in Americans. You should too.

Let's roll.

324 posted on 05/22/2007 10:13:44 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross
Come on Paul...if you're going to insist on being obtuse, I'm not interested in playing.

Gotta run now...but I'll respond to your inanity when I get back.

Cheers!

325 posted on 05/22/2007 10:16:16 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Paul Ross

A child tortured with electrodes attatch to his tongue.....IF the media is not outraged about terrorists doing this to Iraqi children, will they be outraged when the terrorists come here and do it to OUR children? When will they be outraged?


326 posted on 05/22/2007 10:18:51 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga
When will they be outraged?

That's too easy.

The MSM will most likely be outraged at the prospect of a REAL Reagan-conservative, such as Duncan Hunter taking the White House....

327 posted on 05/22/2007 10:40:40 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: DCPatriot

To put the possibility that “the national economy will tank”... a debatable proposition...over and above our Constitution, trumping our sovereignty, or laws, and our future as an unique American civilization...indicates that it is not my side which is being “obtuse”...


328 posted on 05/22/2007 10:45:24 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

LOL... I will restate the question:

What will it take for the MSM to see the Muslim terrorists who have taken a vow to kill infidels for what they are? They beheaded Danile Pearl, but I suspect they blamed that on his being a Jew and disowned him. What will it take to for the MSM to be outraged?


329 posted on 05/22/2007 10:50:30 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Paul Ross

My intent was to place that comment into Rush’s live column, my mistake. But the question is an honest one.....9/11 failed to enrage them........torturing children......BUT Bush outrages them. (((shaking head in frustration)))


330 posted on 05/22/2007 10:54:00 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga
What will it take for the MSM to see the Muslim terrorists who have taken a vow to kill infidels for what they are?

That will happen only when they openly kidnap and behead Katie Couric, Nancy Pelosi et al., and blow up the NBC, ABC, CBS and NYT buildings. Then, the MSM croneys who survived...just might have some second thoughts...if they weren't too busy accusing Bush or maybe some nebulous Christian zealots of enraging the "Religion of Peace."

Maybe.

Hence, the MSM is basically a lost cause.

But of course we can't ignore it. Nor should we. Reagan won in spite of it. Albeit he played it masterfully. They thought they were succeeding at smearing him, instead they just succeeded at endearing him to the voters. We must too.

331 posted on 05/22/2007 11:06:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: tioga
What will it take for the MSM to see the Muslim terrorists who have taken a vow to kill infidels for what they are?

That will happen only when they openly kidnap and behead Katie Couric, Nancy Pelosi et al., and blow up the NBC, ABC, CBS and NYT buildings. Then, the MSM croneys who survived...just might have some second thoughts...if they weren't too busy accusing Bush or maybe some nebulous Christian zealots of enraging the "Religion of Peace."

Maybe.

Hence, the MSM is basically a lost cause.

But of course we can't ignore it. Nor should we. Reagan won in spite of it. Albeit he played it masterfully. They thought they were succeeding at smearing him, instead they just succeeded at endearing him to the voters. We must too.

332 posted on 05/22/2007 11:07:15 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: tioga
What will it take for the MSM to see the Muslim terrorists who have taken a vow to kill infidels for what they are?

That will happen only when they openly kidnap and behead Katie Couric, Nancy Pelosi et al., and blow up the NBC, ABC, CBS and NYT buildings. Then, the MSM croneys who survived...just might have some second thoughts...if they weren't too busy accusing Bush or maybe some nebulous Christian zealots of enraging the "Religion of Peace."

Maybe.

Hence, the MSM is basically a lost cause.

But of course we can't ignore it. Nor should we. Reagan won in spite of it. Albeit he played it masterfully. They thought they were succeeding at smearing him, instead they just succeeded at endearing him to the voters. We must too.

333 posted on 05/22/2007 11:07:47 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: mewzilla

Tell it to Farmers Branch, TX :)

We saw Dallas County turn blue in 06


334 posted on 05/25/2007 1:19:16 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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