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A new temporary guest worker program would also have to wait until those so-called “triggers” had been activated.

Those workers would have to return home after work stints of two years, with little opportunity to gain permanent legal status or ever become U.S. citizens. They could renew their guest worker visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time.

Democrats had pressed instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S.
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I know folks won’t like me saying this, but read that carefully.

Put aside for a moment “nobody is enforcing anything now, why will they enforce this?” Just put that aside a moment. If you stay focused on that, there is nothing that could possibly be done that anyone would believe is being done.

What this says above is illegals DO have to leave the country. They must accept deportation. They will be allowed to apply to return, but they are paying a fine and transport costs to leave the country. Those costs go to US airlines or bus companies or whatever.

Their application to return may be expedited, and they are getting an advantage over legal immigrant applicants who might not be expedited, but as best I can see THIS is the only item that is in this proposal that immigration zealots should hate. The rest of this proposal looks pretty hardline conservative.

Personally, I would never have believed the Dems would allow forcing a head of household to actually leave the country and apply for readmission. The rest of the family . . . hell, the kids may be US citizens. You can’t force them to leave their home country. And yes, I know there is decrying of “anchor baby” provisions in the Constitution, but they are there and that is the current law.

Overall, what looks good here is everything I just typed apparently does not even start until all the enforcement triggers are in place. I think I would have liked to see one more trigger . . . and actual number of deportations per year being reached . . . before triggering these other things, but in general, if I do not walk down the path of believeing no enforcement will ever happen . . . this agreement could be much much worse.


82 posted on 05/17/2007 12:40:23 PM PDT by Owen
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FWIW, I tend to agree with you.


105 posted on 05/17/2007 12:45:35 PM PDT by hawkaw
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Personally, I would never have believed the Dems would allow forcing a head of household to actually leave the country and apply for readmission

If what I read was true they have either 6 or 8 years to do this.

They'll just play the waiting game like they are now and I'm sure another "bipartisan" bill will be approved to wave that also.

This bill is just a scam.

169 posted on 05/17/2007 1:08:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ANWR would be supplying us today if the Democrats had voted for it in 1997)
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To: Owen
Put aside for a moment “nobody is enforcing anything now, why will they enforce this?” Just put that aside a moment. If you stay focused on that, there is nothing that could possibly be done that anyone would believe is being done.
Owen, Owen ,Owen. Don't you get it? You're looking at all the frooforaw about gaining permanent residency or citizenship... But miss the biggest trick of all, They've created a new category, the "Z Visa" - instant legal residency by another name, with none of those other triggers, leaving the country, etc. Tricky aren't they!
180 posted on 05/17/2007 1:21:09 PM PDT by Shermy
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