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To: jveritas
I will apply for my citizenship this year Spiff.

So you, jveritas, a citizen of another nation, are here on Free Republic trying to tell conservatives how we're so wrong about wanting our immigration laws enforced. You're not even an American citizen yet you're chastizing real Americans for trying to protect our borders, language, and culture and for demanding their our laws and our Constitution be upheld by those charged to do so.

How about you zip it. You have no credibility on this issue as your conflict of interest is obvious. Maybe the reason this call for strong enforcement and deportations bothers you so much is that you can't account for your own legal status 100% of the time you've been here. Or maybe that's the case for one of your family members.

822 posted on 05/17/2007 2:12:27 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
How about you zip it.

Unless jveritas starts writing or linking to obscenities, I don't really think silencing him or her is a valid suggestion. If you don't like the arguments presented there is a simple solution. Ignore them. Move on. Go read some John Stuart Mill to understand why all views even those you don't agree with should be able to be presented and debated.

843 posted on 05/17/2007 2:18:46 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Spiff
You are way exceeding your boundary Spiff. I have been here on legal status since I came to the States and not a single time I broke the immigration laws of this great country or any other law and for you to make up these lies is way overbound and I will not tolerate such lies.

Listen Spiff, you have been lying again and again and again about what I am saying so this is one more time so you can understand it if you remove the hate that is blinding your heart, mind, and soul:

Here is my solution for the illegal immigration problem which is very practical and very effective. 1. Greatly increase the border security to stop the flood of illegal immigrants.

2. Grant temporary working status for the illegal immigrants that need to be renewed every 2 years with a fine. The temporary workers must no have access to any welfare program and must no obtain US citizenship in any way, that will be the ultimate penalty they should pay for coming here illegally. May be the best they can obtain is a Permanent Residence status (Green Card) after they have been law abiding temporary workers for 10 years.

848 posted on 05/17/2007 2:19:38 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Spiff; jveritas
I have to say I'm with Spiff here - if you're not a citizen of the US, you really don't have any business in our debate about immigration -- you can be as good a conservative as you like, and I'll be happy for that, but when it comes to immigration policy, you should have exactly as much say as the newest wetback: none whatsoever.

And, you haven't even applied for citizenship? Egad! Enjoy the benefits without the responsibilities. I'm all for legal immigration, and legal immigrants becoming citizens and being regarded on exactly the same basis as those of us whose ancestors have been here since the first half of the 17th century, but, until you become a citizen, it's our country and we'll thank you to let us run it.

887 posted on 05/17/2007 2:32:28 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Spiff
So you, jveritas, a citizen of another nation, are here on Free Republic trying to tell conservatives how we're so wrong about wanting our immigration laws enforced. You're not even an American citizen yet you're chastizing real Americans for trying to protect our borders, language, and culture and for demanding their our laws and our Constitution be upheld by those charged to do so.

Spiff, a brilliant response, I salute you!!

921 posted on 05/17/2007 2:46:08 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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