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Deal struck on immigration bill (in the Senate, now over to the House for action)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:16:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan group of senators reached agreement with the White House Thursday on an immigration overhaul to grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border against new ones.

One of the key negotiators, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., said he expects President Bush to endorse it.

The deal came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.

It set the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.

This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican and Democratic senators huddled Thursday trying to close in on an immigration compromise to grant quick legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants while fortifying U.S. borders against new ones.

A group of lawmakers that has been haggling over the terms of agreement for weeks were reviewing language negotiated Wednesday night in efforts to nail down a deal. Among the final sticking points was a stubborn dispute over how much family ties count toward green cards under a new "point system." The plan prioritizes advanced skills and education levels for future immigrants.

Two of the lead negotiators, Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., booked time for Thursday afternoon in the Senate's radio-TV gallery for an announcement.

But Kennedy said some were hanging back as an agreement inched closer.

"There are just some people who don't want to close on this. There comes a time in every negotiation where people have to close," Kennedy said. "Today is it."

Kennedy said Thursday was likely the last chance for a compromise before senators scattered for a three-day weekend.

"The immigration reform legislation has come to a boiling point," Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said just before going into Thursday's meeting. "We've tried to come to a consensus and I think we are very, very close, but every time we grasp it, it eludes a final resolution."

If no deal emerged, Senate Democrats were to vote Monday evening to bring up an immigration measure that passed last year over the objections of most Republicans, who have said they will block it. That would be a highly partisan start to the immigration debate, which divides the two parties and exposes fissures within their ranks.

Even with a bipartisan agreement, the immigration debate could easily devolve into a free-for-all in the unruly Senate.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., has said he wants to complete a bill before Memorial Day, and President Bush says he wants to sign one by summer's end.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; buildthewall; bushamnesty; bushobl; cw11; cw2; deal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nau; struck; traitors
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To: jveritas

If Nazi Germany could round up over six million people of Jewish faith and hold them using 1930’s technology, the United States can do a heck of a lot better using 21st Century technology.....

(...and NO, I do not support what Hitler did. I’m discussing ability, not morality...)


681 posted on 05/17/2007 1:33:56 PM PDT by seeker_two
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To: acoulterfan

More traitors.

These are the top 25 organizations which lobbied Congress on immigration in 2006, and the number of registered lobbyists they had working on the issue (either through a lobbying firm or through staff lobbyists, or both):

You can bet they weren’t lobbying for better enforcement and national security interests.

It’s all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$, pure and simple.

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/issuesum.asp?txtname=Immigration

National Assn of Home Builders
30

Microsoft Corp
25

Accenture
20

American Federation of Govt Employees
20

American Farm Bureau Federation
18

National Assn of Manufacturers
17

Anheuser-Busch
16

Associated Builders & Contractors
15

US Chamber of Commerce
15

Human Rights Campaign
14

Immigration Voice
14

AFL-CIO
13

National Council of La Raza
13

Natl Assn of Public Hosp & Health Sys
13

DSNR Ltd
12

Micron Technology
12

Assn of Independent Research Institutes
10

National Assn Community Health Ctrs
10

Oracle Corp
10

American Resort Development Assn
9

Americans for the Arts
9

Centex Corp
9

Crossmatch Technologies
9

DaimlerChrysler
9

Home Depot
9


682 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:26 PM PDT by angkor
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To: acoulterfan
Do what I did, send an e-mail to McConnel and explain why there will be no RNC donations this cycle and maybe next. If it's one thing they do understand it's money.
683 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:34 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: TheRiverNile

Yes I agree too....


684 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:38 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Guenevere
..for 4 years they have been carefully working through the channels to become US citizens, doing everything the law requires.

What a joke for them.

Not a joke ... it's a total slap in the face of every legal immigrant in this country.

685 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:45 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: CT

I find the idea of third parties, mad as I may get at the GOP, impractical.

But best of luck to ya.


686 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:47 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: devane617
I agree with you. Our elected conservative leadership has abandoned us in the middle of the biggest issue we face. I think it is time we start fresh. I will never vote republican until we have new leadership.

Bush says we cannot be defeatist when it comes to Iraq while at the same time agreeing to a bill that throws up the white flag to illegal invaders in the homeland. If this passes as is I will also never vote republican until the leadership is cleansed of "compassionate conservatives" (liberalism in disguise) once and for all.
687 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:58 PM PDT by Timedrifter
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To: panthermom

“Take a good look at your kid and grandkids, they will be paying the price for this in spades”

Amen! Let’s give the same consideration to our posterity that our forefathers gave to us!


688 posted on 05/17/2007 1:35:01 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: jveritas

jveritas, it’s simply not true that we’d have to have a massive round up to rid ourselves of the illegals. We should start by declaring their children are NOT citizens (no anchor babies) — I understand that is a plausible reading of the citizenship amendments — and then deny them ALL public services: no drivers licenses, no emergency room, no public schools for their children, no bilingual services (learn English or be ignored) nothing at all other than a one way ticket home. Combine with mandatory jail for employers who do not check citizenship using an approved ID system (I know, that sucks, but what else you gonna do?) if employees turn out to be illegal. Penalties for illegals who are caught: permanent expulsion (with a mark that cannot be removed so they can never reenter). Penalties for illegals who commit crimes here: expulsion after long jail sentences. With that kind of program, and perhaps a 90 day grace period for those here illegally to leave without permanent expulsion penalty - leave now and you can get in line to apply to come back, stay and get caught and you’ll never come back, large numbers would leave voluntarily. The work would dry up, the average person who hires and illegal carpenter or gardener would not risk 5 years in jail (mandatory) to save a few bucks. No work, they’d leave in droves.


689 posted on 05/17/2007 1:35:01 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Gulf War One
The agreement reached today is one that will help enforce our borders, but equally importantly, it will treat people with respect.

Which people, Mr. President? Surely you can't mean the American people.

This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty, but without animosity.

Why on earth, by now, does he think anyone believes such a blatant lie? Is he that insulated from reality?

690 posted on 05/17/2007 1:35:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
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To: jveritas

You don’t need to deport all of them. All you need to do is cut off the welfare payments, free medical, food stamps, WIC, free/low-income housing, free schools, and start prosecuting their employers and they will start going back home. Simple.


691 posted on 05/17/2007 1:35:39 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic ("I'm Barack Hussein Obama...and I approved this taqiyya.")
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To: EternalVigilance
Fitting that that post was #666.

OMG - too funny! Thanks; I had not noticed where it wound up.

692 posted on 05/17/2007 1:35:50 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: gathersnomoss

Oh that’s a guarantee.... However, I believe its time to abandon the Republican party. I have had it with them. We need a new political party.


693 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:12 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Altura Ct.
“it is impossible to deport 12 million immigrants” Bullshit!

Perfect response, bears repeating.
694 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:21 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: FightforFreedomCA
"I just called the GOP, told them to take my name off their rolls. And now I am thinking of changing party registration."

"What's that phone number...I want to call and do the same."

202-863-8500 or 202-863-8747.

695 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:23 PM PDT by CT (Watch how many puff pieces the media do on Hillary before she melts.)
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To: FOXFANVOX

Yep.


696 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:39 PM PDT by HonestConservative (If Conservatism is dead, why are the candidates claiming to be one.Hunter/Thompson08)
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To: darth

The field is wide open. Who will it be? I will hold for that individual. All others can pound sand.


697 posted on 05/17/2007 1:37:16 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: kabar
I stated my solution for the illegal immigration issue already few times:

1. Greatly increase the border security to stop the flood of illegal immigrant.

2. Grant temporary working status for the illegal immigrants that need to be renewed every 2 years with a fine. The temporary workers must no have access to any welfare program and must no obtain US citizenship in any way, that will be the ulimate penalty they should pay for coming here illegaly. May be the best they can obtain is a Permanent Residence status (Green Card) after they have been law abiding temporary workers for 10 years.

698 posted on 05/17/2007 1:37:58 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: genxer; TomGuy
i have a question...i dont not want to vote for anyone who supported this. SO who do i vote for. Because there is no choice @ this point.

What if, they held an election and NO ONE came? Blackbird.

699 posted on 05/17/2007 1:38:05 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: Gulf War One

Thanks for selling out our great Nation, and destroying the Republican party in 2008 and possibly forever.


700 posted on 05/17/2007 1:38:13 PM PDT by Sprite518
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