Mich. GOP head wants to ban presidential candidate from debates

05/17/07 | JIM DAVENPORT

[TornadoAlley3]

Rules say link only:

http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070517/NEWS01/305170009

[John D]

Since when is supporting a white flag waving anti American supporting a conservative? Cowards represent the other party.

[John D]

I don’t think he is trying to shut him up. I think he wants to keep the GOP debates limited to Republican candidates with Republican values. Anyone who says the United States is responsible for 9/11 is no Republican.

[untrained skeptic]

While I agree with you, I think the point of the primaries is to let the members of the Republican Party decide for themselves who best represents them out of the field of candidates.

If Paul's actions gain him the support of a sizable portion of Republicans, he should be allowed to continue in the debates.

If candidates are excluded in debates it should be by a consistent measure such as poll scores, and set at a reasonably low level.

It should not be done based on a few in party leadership positions picking who can or cannot participate.

My point is that the party leadership shouldn't be given the authority to determine what "Republican values" are on their own. If they were allowed to do that here in Ohio we would only get to choose from big government RINOs, because they have gotten control of the party leadership positions, and are doing their best to use their positions to maintain that control.

[mkjessup]

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[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

“I think they want the GOP debates to feature only Republicans. If they wanted white flag waving, tin foil hat anti Americans they would also invite Hillary, Edwards and Gore.”

Explain Rudy McRomney.

[mkjessup]

The guy who stood up Lenin?
Allen Dulles. First director of the CIA.
I'd love to see a source on that. Since the Russian Revolution began in 1917 and Dulles was born in 1893, he would have only been 24 years old - barely out of college.

Look for the book 'Dulles', by Leonard Mosley.

From the 'Time' review of Mosley's book in 1978:

"Mosley has, among other things, assembled a wonderful collection of anecdotes about Allen and the international dacoity that he practiced. In April of 1917, while serving as a duty officer at the American legation in Berne, Allen had a date with a girl and therefore refused to see someone named V.I. Lenin. By next day, Lenin was on his way back to Russia, where he immediately ordered peace negotiations with the Germans to begin. Lenin, who admired Woodrow Wilson, had wanted to establish an American contact."

I was astounded when I first read of this, and that was when I was a politically curious kid of only 12.

[John D]

They are both pro American, not anti American. They are not going around wearing tin foil hats claiming America is responsible for 9/11.
While I have problems with Rudy’s abortion views they are not as great as my concerns with the WOT. If we lose that we are all dead. Abortion should be settled at the state level, and a president has no control over that.

[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

“They are both pro American, not anti American.”

Rudy and Romney and McCain are all anti-American - against your and my liberty in a number of ways.

So what - they want to kick bad guys asses overseas. They want to kick your and mine, here, now.

“They are not going around wearing tin foil hats claiming America is responsible for 9/11.”

“While I have problems with Rudy’s abortion views they are not as great as my concerns with the WOT.”

Terrorists have killed more than 42 million US citizens? Abortion has.

“If we lose that we are all dead.”

Pure hyperbole.

“Abortion should be settled at the state level, and a president has no control over that.”

Should slavery be handled at the state level? The right to life is the most basic fundamental right. If govt has any power from us it should be to protect that right from other humans who don’t value it so highly. You know, guys like Rudy McRomney.

[John D]

The abortion issue was settled at the Supreme Court. That is the body that has the final say. Like it or not, that is what the Constitution says. A president can not overturn the Supreme Court. He can appoint justices that may interpret the Constitution in different ways but he has no way of banning abortion.

So what - they want to kick bad guys asses overseas.
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You would rather have the terrorists over here killing us?
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“If we lose that we are all dead.”
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If we surrender in Iraq and allow the terrorists to win like Ron Paul wants we ARE all dead, if not with lives our liberties. No hyperbole.

[Paperdoll]

>Duncan Hunter’s a nice guy, but so far, he’s missed two opportunities to step forward from the back of the pack. He needs to hire Mike Huckabee’s joke writer if he really wants a chance.<

Oh, I keep forgetting. Today’s electorate wants a comedian or a tv star for a president, not a man with vast experience, who knows what he is talking about, and has his country’s best interests at heart above all else. Darn! Maybe he can hire a dog to jump through a hoop. Would that do it for ya? :o)

[hunter112]

Would that do it for ya?

Duncan Hunter's got everything he needs to be President.

Oh, except voters.

[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

“The abortion issue was settled at the Supreme Court.”

It’s far from settled. There was one bad decision.

“A president can not overturn the Supreme Court. He can appoint justices that may interpret the Constitution in different ways but he has no way of banning abortion.”

I see no indication Rudy or Romney would. Both are pro-abortion and pro-gun control. They will appoint jackboot judges and call them conservative.

“If we surrender in Iraq and allow the terrorists to win like Ron Paul wants we ARE all dead, if not with lives our liberties. No hyperbole.”

We might all be dead if they win too. Neither is a guarantee against Islamic nuclear attack.

[SunkenCiv]

Michigan GOP leader wants Paul barred from future debates[Ron Paul]
AP | 16 May 2007 | Jim Davenport
Posted on 05/17/2007 11:01:52 AM EDT by BGHater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts

“...The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday that he will try to bar Ron Paul from future GOP presidential debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy... “Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said.

[dragnet2]

Duncan Hunter's a nice guy, but so far, he's missed two opportunities to step forward from the back of the pack. He needs to hire Mike Huckabee's joke writer if he really wants a chance.

Yeah, that's what we need, more rehearsed, one liner jokes in the presidential debates..Given the mood of the country right now, turning the debates into comedy central is just brilliant GOP strategy. It appears they learned nothing in the past election.

Fact is the only people I saw laughing at any of this were the audience of GOP elites and the MSM.

[hunter112]

Yeah, that's what we need, more rehearsed, one liner jokes in the presidential debates.

At least Huckabee got mentioned in the next day's news. Right now, Duncan Hunter's answers are getting him ignored by everybody besides the relative few of us in the blogosphere.

I'd rather see Hunter call Rudy a philanderer, McCain a tired old man who doesn't believe in free speech, and Mitt the member of a weird religion. But since he's not going to do those things, he needs to do SOMETHING to move from the back of the pack. Just standing there answering questions seriously is not going to get him campaign contributions, name familiarity, or when the primaries start, votes. He has only the early debates to make himself known, at some point, those running the debates are going to say "front tier, only" and he's going to be shut out of the only forum to make a name for himself.

[dragnet2]

I'd rather see Hunter call Rudy a philanderer, McCain a tired old man

Seems to me we've had enough of this childish crap. My candidate will address the issues and leave the name calling to those that are just taking up space on the tax payers backs. Enough of the one liner jokes that make the MSM giggle. Most of the country is in no mood for the juvenile rehearsed one liners.

Too much is at stake, and those paying attention understand this.

[hunter112]

My candidate will address the issues...

Well, here's a suggestion for him, he should address the issue of this amnesty bill, and target McCain hard for his front-and-center promotion of it. Or, he can sit back, make boring little statements, and let Tancredo seize the initiative on this issue. Oh, wait, Mitt's positioning himself at the front of that line...

[dragnet2]

Well, here's a suggestion for him, he should address the issue of this amnesty bill

Yes, that would be most appropriate. Thanks.

[The_Eaglet]

Thanks for the flag. Reports are circulating that Anuzis will withdraw his petition effort. He and many MI GOP offices are getting flooded with calls about this.

More details are discussed at Daily Paul.

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[cva66snipe]

Interesting the GOP for several election cycles has developed a real nasty habit of trying to lock out Conservatives. I think the GOP may be losing it’s choke hold on the flock it has been fleecing :>}