[restornu]

I think your are taking this to extremes.

You don’t need to use waterboarding on anyone else accept the person who has the knowledge, that method works very well on the subject!

[George W. Bush]

Inflicting administrative torture is already extreme.

You can characterize my opposition to it as "extreme" but that doesn't make it so.

You might keep in mind General Petraeus' public commitment and his own directive which condemns its use.

Unlike some of you armchair generals, I actually listen to professional military men and tortured veterans like McCain when they all say exactly the same thing: torture is bad for our military morale and esprit de corps. It weakens the scant protection our soldiers have under the Geneva Convention. It's rarely as effective as is popularly imagined.

The dramatic scenarios, like FNC proposed, virtually never happen and, in fact, I don't think you can cite a single instance where they ever did happen during the entire Cold War. That's just not how the real world works, no matter how many episodes of 24 you watch or how exciting it is to watch Jack Bauer torturing some raghead terrorist on your little television programs.