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To: Truthsearcher

My point is only that we could have this discussion NOW...and that the need to overturn R v Wade is needed first is a red herring.

We never had the issues dealt with before R v Wade, let alone even a discussion about the issues. My point is that it is hypocritical of the pro lifers to demand R v Wade be overturned yet never think through all the results and how we will deal with them.

Just put the docs in prison and that ends the problem.


34 posted on 05/16/2007 6:49:31 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in New Orleans and Philly!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Sure, any 2 people can have this discussion. But the public discourse will always end with the pro-abortion side saying “abortion is a consitutional right, end of discussion”.

That’s why Roe is such an abomination, it takes away any real meaningful discourse on this issue. We don’t need to deal with the issues before R v W is overturned, because even after R v W is overturned, abortions will still be legal *until* individual states pass laws through their legislatures, and that’s where the debate over the issues you brought up will take place, where they belong.

There is no immediate consequence of overturning R v W, so there is no need to discuss the immediate repercussions.

Your position is “let’s not overturn Roe until we discuss the possible consquences of the laws that Roe will permit”, that is a false standard. The proper time to discuss the the possible consequences of those laws should be when those laws are actually up for a vote, that how a representative government works. People propose laws, we discuss the pros and cons, and we vote on it afterwards.


35 posted on 05/16/2007 7:03:06 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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Maybe it’s just me, but I have a feeling that if something like this had been done by Halliburton, it would be the lead story in the NYT, the LA Times, WaPO, on the net, and of course, on the 3 TV dinosaurs. But since it involves Planned Parenthood colluding in covering up a crime, it will appear only on websites like that cited above, and the MSM will spike it for their buddies over at PP. I hope I am wrong, but that is the usual outcome with a story like this.


36 posted on 05/16/2007 7:12:38 PM PDT by Robwin
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