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To: malibu2008
Very misleading title. Excommunication is the most serious ecclesiastical penalty levied against a member of the Roman Catholic Church. It is a seldom used punishment to discipline unrelenting defiance or other serious violations of church rules, especially by those who are accused of "spreading division and confusion among the faithful" -- meaning, in practice, that the option of excommunication is more likely to be enforced when the disobedient Catholic is a visible and presumably influential public figure (such as a politician), but only rarely in the cases of non-public figures. Excommunication is never a merely "vindictive penalty" (designed solely to punish), but is always a "medicinal penalty" intended to pressure the person into changing their behavior or statements, repent and return to full communion.

Last I knew, the Pope had not excommunicated Giuliani (or any other politician I am aware of) therefore Giuliani is still a Catholic.

33 posted on 05/16/2007 2:14:49 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: Ben Mugged
...Giuliani is still a Catholic.

Read the reference in Antoninus's #28.

36 posted on 05/16/2007 2:23:34 PM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: Ben Mugged
the excommunication is latae sententiae which means it is automatic, and hence there is no need for an official decree
37 posted on 05/16/2007 2:24:10 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Ben Mugged
Ok, I'll ask you, were all his marriages annulled?

therefore Giuliani is still a Catholic.

44 posted on 05/16/2007 2:29:10 PM PDT by DManA
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