[betty boop]

...many scientists dig into philosophy when they are more mature and not working so hard on making their nut. Many of the best and most influential philosphers were scientists before. Kant was a physicist.

And in addition to being a world-class philosopher, Leibniz was also a world-class mathematician who independently developed the calculus.

The reverse is also true. It can be demonstrated that both Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr were students of philosophy, and their philosophical understandings deeply influenced their work as scientists.

I think what Coyoteman is describing when he says that no scientists today pay any attention to philosophy at all simply describes the situation of increasing deculturation that is advancing among many if not most Western intellectuals of our time. The education process is failing in its primary mission: To transmit the culture to the rising generation.

[Coyoteman]

Responding to this and the precious post:

#283: There is virtually no issue in philosophy that Plato didn't originally raise in his works. Which explains the statement, "all of philosophy is but a recapitulation of Plato."

And that is one of the reasons I can't get excited by philosophy. Philosophers are still batting the same ideas around after 2,500 years, and are no closer to any resolution than Plato was. By way of comparison, just look at what science has done in just the last 250 years.

#284: I think what Coyoteman is describing when he says that no scientists today pay any attention to philosophy at all simply describes the situation of increasing deculturation that is advancing among many if not most Western intellectuals of our time. The education process is failing in its primary mission: To transmit the culture to the rising generation.

Deculturation? No. When you are doing many of the technical sciences studying philosophy is simply a colossal waste of time.

The education process is failing in its primary mission: To transmit the culture to the rising generation.

The education establishment has determined that western culture is not worth transmitting to the next generation. Science is increasingly ignoring "educators" as well.

And so sayeth the Curmudgeon.

[Alamo-Girl]

The education process is failing in its primary mission: To transmit the culture to the rising generation.

Indeed, it is as if public education these days is bent on creating a new culture based on the ideology of the left. "It takes a village" and all that...