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To: cornelis; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe
I see two unique issues--or do I have that wrong?

I don't think so, cornelis. In the first instance you cited, we are dealing with the expectation that a thorough analysis of parts (singly or in any combination) is capable of revealing the structure of the whole of which they are the parts. I think it's safe to say that neither A-G nor I puts much stock in such an expectation.

The second instance has to do with the supposition that somehow, reality is being conjured forth -- so to speak -- by an act of observation.

A-G and I have both been studying an interesting essay by Robert Lanza that seems to suggest that the latter case prevails. That somehow, reality is somehow "constructed" by human minds.

Certainly these are two different, and unique issues.

For myself, I think there's something to what Lanza is saying. But I don't think it can be "the whole story." So I take a page from Bohr here, and simply suppose that what Lanza is saying is "one half" of a complementarity; then go look for the "other half." (If that makes any sense.)

Am still looking!

Your thoughts, dear cornelis?

144 posted on 05/30/2007 5:00:47 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; cornelis
Amazing that the "observer" can see what he sees and completely discount that another observer "has" a different vista.. That at least "looks" different after being described by the other observer..

Little wonder that God cautioned to stay away from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.. For what is the observer observing but good and evil.. Good in degrees and Evil in degrees and a mix of them both.. How wise it is that, that Tree is warned against at the very git go in Genesis.. Before the drama of men started and is the very focus of Satans attack on mans testimony..

Neils Bohr seemed to see that for every good there was an evil and for every evil there was a good.. reciprocal logic.. Could even be that the "good" was/is timestamped as well the "evil" was/is timestamped.. Meaning whats good may not be good tomorrow.. Could take a observation/view of eternity(God) see good and evil in its time.. and watch good progress to evil and evil progress to good.. in real time.. Judging good from evil may be a game for God to play.. Mankind just cannot see far enough..

145 posted on 05/30/2007 6:01:47 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your excellent post!

I must confess however that everytime I think about Lanza, the old "Life is but a Dream" melody sticks in my brain. LOL!

146 posted on 05/30/2007 9:24:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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