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To: YHAOS
neither is it worth the exhaustive effort of running down and analyzing every instance of the use of the good Professor’s quote

No exhaustive efforts are required. Just use the Google searach term:

"the Darwinian theory has become an all-purpose obstacle to thought rather than an enabler of scientific advance" -gilder

Every reference to the quote comes from Gilder. Every reference except for RussP's references.

Do you (in this context) equate ‘endorsement’ with ‘support’?

Laughlin's quote does not endorse ID. Gilder uses (abuses) Laughlin's quote to support ID.

109 posted on 05/24/2007 3:44:45 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Jeff Gordon; RussP
No exhaustive efforts are required. (respecting the ‘abuses’ of the Laughlin quote) Just use the Google searach term:

Oh, good. A misapprehension entirely of my fault, I’m sure. I was under the impression there was a veritable Google sea of misapplied quotes of Dr. Laughlin’s out there, much like the wave after wave of broomsticks carrying buckets of water in The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, each one (the quotes, not the broomsticks) requiring analysis of the context in which it was used, to determine whether or not it was a genuine instance of being out-of-context.

Speaking of which:

Laughlin's quote does not endorse ID. Gilder uses (abuses) Laughlin's quote to support ID.

Non-responsive, Sir. I asked, “Do you (in this context) equate ‘endorsement’ with ‘support’?” Just in case there is any confusion, that question was a request for clarification. Repeating an assertion does not clarify. It may well be that it fits your purpose to remain suitably vague. That is your prerogative, and that is fine. In either case I shall have had my answer.

Neither have you thrown any light on why you cite the use of Laughlin quotes on Google, which you condemn as abusive, but then explicitly exempt RussP’s use of the quote from that general category. If RussP is exempt, why are these other quotes included in your discussion with him?

Now it develops in your last message that the use of the quote you cite as being abusive comes not from all of Googleland but from but one person (Gilder). So, is it merely Gilder v RussP? Was there a wider context, which you’ve now chosen to narrow? As before, it is your prerogative to answer, just as it is my prerogative to raise these troublesome issues.

112 posted on 05/25/2007 3:38:05 PM PDT by YHAOS
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