[Abathar]

"The White House, on the other hand, is isolated, and utterly desperate to keep Iraq progressing. Just getting a hold of Baghdad and Anbar is taxing us to the limit. "

That is a political problem, not a military one. Do you really think if we decided to slip off just one glove that Baghdad and Anbar province would really be taxing on our military?

The problem is NOT with the military, its with the meek and timid generation that watches the news 24/7 and cries right along with the war machine's "victims". Eventually people are going to have to understand that this is not going to be a sterile war of intimidation, threats, and bullying.

When cities really begin to fall and you see B-52's carpet bombing with wholesale destruction once again because it is the only thing these people will ever understand, then we finally may get somewhere, not before.

[quant5]

“When cities really begin to fall and you see B-52’s carpet bombing with wholesale destruction once again because it is the only thing these people will ever understand, then we finally may get somewhere, not before.”

And I am sad to say without stopping Iran, the catalyst of our massive wholesale destruction will be a nuclear terrorist event on one of our port cities, courtesy of Iran. Sure they may pay in Iran but our country will be in a depression and it will be unlikely we will be able to protect our oil supply, leading to other enemies making their moves. It’s gonna get ugly, but we will win in the end.

[snowrip]

When cities really begin to fall and you see B-52's carpet bombing with wholesale destruction once again because it is the only thing these people will ever understand, then we finally may get somewhere, not before.

I'm afraid we will never, ever see wars fought this way again... at least, not under our current president. The uter fallacy on non-lethal war is both pervasive and unquestioned, all the war to the CINC.