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You expect me to READ this crap? (smile). Just tell us Bin Laden said it and give me a link. Besides, the heavy breathers here can't be expected to get past a one liner by Rudy. They wouldn't believe it if they saw him reciting this screed in person. Aside from that, these darlings CANNOT make the distinction between a) THIS is why they did it and b) THIS JUSTIFIES why they did it. Just TOOOOOO big a jump for them. I swear I get more depressed over the conservative movement every day when I see some of the STUPID reasoning behind some of these goobs up howling at the moon whenever someone dares suggest that the war might not be the best way to promote our own security. There are bright people who support the war, but they hide out well on FR. Mostly we get screeching nimrods who can't get past bawling out "TRAITOR."

Great post, to the both of you. What most of the keyboard warriors here can't seem to grasp, they're swimming upstream against 70% the American public. Take this PC Iraq War (and a farce that's called the GWOT) into the next election, and they're toast for decades to come. Blackbird.

Take this PC Iraq War (and a farce that's called the GWOT) into the next election, and they're toast for decades to come. Blackbird.

I wouldn't be so pessimistic. The Democrats helped deliver a defeat on Vietnam, where we lost 58,000 dead. They were rewarded with a one-term president - Jimmy Carter.

Take this PC Iraq War (and a farce that's called the GWOT) into the next election, and they're toast for decades to come. Blackbird.

Note that when the Democrats voted for defeat in Vietnam, they had massive majorities in both Houses. These majorities sank like a rock later. The point is that not everything is about the war. If their socialist policies lead to a recession, the American voter will turf them sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately, here's the most likely 2008 scenario:

Dubya stays stubborn, and we're in Iraq with current troop levels through the election.

The GOP nominates a pro-war candidate like Rudy or McCain and loses to whichever democrat runs. If they panic and turn anti-war in the middle of the race, the dems will label them a flip-flopper.

House members will continue to support the war, and will lose a lot of seats.

Result: a massive Dem Majority with a Dem President. All that has been gained in the last 14 years, which isn't that much, is lost. Hello Socialized Medicine. Hello tax hikes. Hello federally-funded abortion.