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To: jwalsh07
There is a method, its a resolution entitled a declaration of war stating the nation we’re at war with. What we do now, which is not Constitutional, is give the President vague authority to attack those who he feels should be attacked.

Its supposed to work like this. Congress decides who to attack, then the President carries out Congress’ mandate. The President isn’t Commander in Chief until the military is called into ACTUAL SERVICE (Article II Section II).

I’m not letting Congress off the hook, I’m trying to put Congress on the hook by making it give a solid declaration or else NO WAR.

2,307 posted on 05/15/2007 8:48:35 PM PDT by HoundsTooth_BP
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
There is a method, its a resolution entitled a declaration of war stating the nation we’re at war with.

Cite it.

2,358 posted on 05/15/2007 8:55:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
There is a method, its a resolution entitled a declaration of war stating the nation we’re at war with. What we do now, which is not Constitutional, is give the President vague authority to attack those who he feels should be attacked.

This is false. There is no such language in the Constitition of the United States. Now produce the language you just paraphrased or admit that you have skated off the thin ice into the deep end.

Its supposed to work like this. Congress decides who to attack, then the President carries out Congress’ mandate. The President isn’t Commander in Chief until the military is called into ACTUAL SERVICE (Article II Section II).

Nonsense, once again you have decided to encroach on the executives war powers. The POTUS is the CIC always. You're constitutionally challenged. You really don't know what your talking about, in exigent circumstance the CIC doesn't even need a Congressional authorization.

I’m not letting Congress off the hook, I’m trying to put Congress on the hook by making it give a solid declaration or else NO WAR.

LOL, hardly. Like so many others who argue this word game, you give Congress a pass every time. Korea was a war. Vietnam was a war. Iraq is a war. Afghanistan is a war. You know how I know that? Because good men have died in all and those that return are eligible for membership in the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Be a man, don't let Congress off the hook on something as stupid as the language involved in authorizing wars where good men and women pay the ultimate price of war.

2,368 posted on 05/15/2007 8:57:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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