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To: kddid
Yes, what are basic services?

try: Fire, police, sewer, streets, lighting, parks, school construction.

Property tax is a state/local tax, welfare is from federal dollars.

67 posted on 05/14/2007 10:08:47 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: Michael.SF.

LOL. In my area in FL, the police hardly ever come and we pay to pave our own streets. And garbage. And the sewer comes out of our individual water bills.

That amazed me when I moved down here. If your street needs paving, the people in the subdivision vote, and if they vote to pave your street, they divy up the bill and you get it with your taxes over several years.

Actually I sort of like it that way. I’d rather pay for it individually than have it added in an amorphous mass to my taxes. People say FL has low taxes. That’s why.

The problem is, socialists keep moving down from the North and voting in more money “for the children and schools”. They’ve learned how to do it - add it to the constitution, and that keeps the more conservative legislature from voting on it. Then nobody can argue with it - it has to be done.
They’ve learned to phrase it in a way people will vote for it, without realizing the silliness they vote for. And then they HAVE to raise taxes for it.


69 posted on 05/14/2007 11:09:16 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Michael.SF.
ry: Fire, police, sewer, streets, lighting, parks, school construction.

hmm..

fire .... the first fire companies were private. And out here where I am it’s all voluntary work. Whats wrong with that?

police .... yes , I agree .... someone has to fill out the paper work after a crime is committed. But it seems like revenue collection is the main job sometimes.

Sewer .... all this does is subsidize developers so they can have higher density housing. This should be done with private money, those who use it pay. there are plenty of examples of this.

streets ... again .. subsidy for developers. Developers build a road that serves their development. Then the government picks up all future maintenance. Thats ridiculous. IF the road goes somewhere ... fine. But most of the new roads being built today are basically just drive ways that serve the houses on them. School buses shouldn’t even go down them. And yes there are plenty of example of private roads , maintained by the users.

lighting ... your kidding right ?

parks ... and Nintendo for everyone. So you don’t think a private entrepreneur could make a buck opening a park and providing recreation? ... Does that mean that there aren't enough people willing to pay for something like that ?

school construction ... public schools should be seen for what they are. public schools , public housing , public assistance. Every effort should be made to get kids out of public schools. Would it be a generous goal to get everyone to live in public housing?
Public schools are a safety net for those who have little opportunity. ...

now ... what are those necessary expenses again?

88 posted on 05/15/2007 6:23:02 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (####### comment deleted by moderator)
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