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To: caseinpoint
...and that He is our Lord, Redeemer, Savior, and God.

I agree with your earlier post. They deny the Deity of Christ.

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form - Col. 2:9

29 posted on 05/15/2007 8:43:07 PM PDT by DrewsDad (PIERCE the EARMARKS)
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To: DrewsDad

They don’t. They hold that Christ is a separate being of the Godhead, subservient to God the Father but also Lord of this earth and completely united in purpose and love with the Father and the Holy Spirit. I’ll see your Col. 2:9 and raise you John 17:22.


30 posted on 05/15/2007 8:49:36 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: DrewsDad

Actually I’ve no desire to get into a Bible-bashing debate which hasn’t been resolved for 2,000 years. Both of us could easily quote numerous scriptures to back our disparate views. Even the participants at the Council of Nicea acknowledged that they were going extra-scriptural to reach agreement on something that would counter the threat of Arianism.

My point is that the Doctrine of the Trinity, old and widely-accepted as it is, is merely a paradigm to define God (who is ultimately undefinable anyway) and why is it that those who accept this Trinitarian paradigm over another equally scriptural paradigm have the right to decide that anyone who accepts the second paradigm can’t be properly classified a “Christian”. Mormons have no problem with accepting other denominations as Christian, so why do other so-called “Christian” denominations have problems with Mormons professing to follow the Christ in the scriptures? Mormons do not deny the divinity of Christ, they assert it unapologetically. They believe it when Christ says he sits at the right hand of the Father. Trinitarians believe in a metaphysical three separate beings with one substance. Mormons believe in three separate beings who together comprise the Godhead: God the Father, His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. Both views are Biblical, layered with scriptural interpretation. Neither is “un-Christian”. Followers of both paradigms are trying their level best to follow the Savior’s example here and acknowledge Him as their Savior and advocate with the Father.

By the way, this entire discussion began with my comment that Norris was unnecessarily bashing potential allies in his crusade to bring back Christian values. I stand by that assertion. Six million conservatives should not be lightly trashed when you are looking for friends.


31 posted on 05/15/2007 9:13:02 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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