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Posted on 05/13/2007 9:59:47 AM PDT by upchuck
The problem is more than just Bush, it’s the entire party. Yes, we are losing the battle against the UN, which is our enemy. We are losing a lot of battles these days. We are losing almost as many battles to Republicans as to Democrats.
Could it be that Republican politicians are ignoring the base these days because they think too much of the base stays home or votes third party? Just asking. Do they think the base is too small to influence the RINOs, who are perhaps the majority of Republican politicians these days? Again, just asking. Politicians do a lot of internal polling that we don’t see. Most aren’t leaders, they are followers, we know that.
Perhaps, just perhaps, we are losing the battle of ideas at this time. That doesn’t mean we are wrong, it means we aren’t getting our ideas across to enough voters. Which could be why we have this current spineless Congress, and why we may see the Clintons in the White House again.
Ronald Reagan respected the Constitution like the Founders did. In some cases, maybe even more. Reagan was an internationalist, but always placed US interests first and foremost. Reagan was no globalist.
When it comes to foreign affairs, like trade and immigration, George W.Bush has shown a total disrespect for the Constitution. A globalist he is!
Rudy Giuliani is also a globalist. He has no idea what the phrases “original intent” and “original meaning” stand for in the context of the Constitution. God help America if that repugnant creature ever gets elected.
You suggest it's the fault of the American people or the base that our sovereignty and independent nationalism are being auctioned off?
If they believe that, they should resign now, or start packing because they won't be there in another cycle.
Trying to cobble a win by straddling the middle only works for a while. Eventually the opposing party puts up a candidate who simply cops a few issues and says, "why vote for a fake when you can have the real thing?".
Since Mr. Bush's sympathies clearly lie with the ideas and concepts of the Internationalists of the Socialist Party (that's all the modern "Democrats" are, since about 1928), it ain't gonna be long now for him and his buds.
Unfortunately a lot of damage done will be undoable, a fact that Teddy understands.
Bit nauseating to see that guy smirking and laughing while the hapless remaining Republicans fight a delaying action against "their own" President.
Sorry, I can't see how my lessening support for W hands the gvt to the RATS.
Now if I had said my support of conservatives is lessening, I'd have to agree w/ you. But that's not what I said. My stance is about just W.
It's all our fault 'cuz we don't get in line for the plunge over the cliff.
Stupid Party = Lemming Party
“You suggest it’s the fault of the American people or the base that our sovereignty and independent nationalism are being auctioned off?”
I’m looking for ideas about the current state of affairs, and looking for solutions. I will admit that I’m at a bit of a loss in analyzing things right now. I’m not blaming anyone, besides the base is part of the American people, as are our politicians. It would seem blame can be widely placed.
Amazing. As I was reading the comments out loud to my wife, I started reading yours, I got to Stupid Party = and before I got to the next two words she said the exact same thing.
I appreciate your comments, but “they” probably believe they are doing what will keep them in power. Politicians tend to do what they believe will keep them in office.
They aren’t alway right about that, but given how many incumbents get reelected over and over, most of them know how to survive.
As I said in a post just above, I’m at a loss for solutions right now. That doesn’t mean I’ve given up, though.
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Fred Thompson? What exactly has FT provided towards the well-being of the nation’s leadership since 9/11? I wish him well and would far prefer him over anyone in the opposition. But I have been listening carefully and have heard nothing from him except grandfatherly platitudes so far. If he wants the nomination, much less actual election, he must rise to the bait like a fighting marlin and run with it until he pulls every other candidate into the water. I haven’t seen anything like that so far.
And don’t forget, GWB won the presidency twice, which has saved this nation and the world from lots of grief that otherwise would have come our way. That’s no reason not to complain when we disagree with one policy or another, but it is not right to attack personally a great president.
I have supported GW wholly; but, like many of the sentiments expressed in this thread, mine are of disappointment with GW, too. That leads me to say that I think you are deluding yourself in saying that the “great Bush... short end of the stick.” Jeb and GW are chips off the old block(GHWB), they are all of the same mold, i.e., “moderates” with no really conservative principles(that’s the reason GHWB got stuck with breaking his “no new taxes” pledge); and, like Rush says, there are no truly great moderates.
GW has lowered taxes, responded to 9/11, and appointed two apparently right-minded judges to the USSC, all of these executive actions being no-brainers in my book. But, when you get down to the nitty-gritty, what else has he done that conservatives can be excited about? Worked with Teddy Kennedy on education, did not veto McCain-Feingold even though he allegedly had misgivings about its constitutionality, created the biggest government yet, instituted a “new tone” that has been an abject failure in the eyes of many supporters, etc., ad infinitum. I cannot get excited about that. Jeb would be more of the same.
This is bad for America.
He's not enough to 'shine RR's shoes"
LOST PING
He’s taking the Republican party and the United States down together.
LOST isn't it.
I don’t want it to be our Coast Guard that enforces that, do you?
You would prefer the UN?
You would prefer the UN?
Excellent.
Someone mentioned lemmings above. It's a perfect analogy.
Hey, Isom35,
I got into this a little late because I had to take one of my pets to the vets for a shot (and yes, it is Sunday).
I’m LOST! LOST comes on too late for me…Yes, yes, 9:00 p.m. rather than 10:00 p.m. because of no daylight saving time in Panama. I go to bed early; and therefore, I am LOST.
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