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To: GraniteStateConservative

Everything you’re portraying Him as is a mischaracterization of His character.

The whole statement about His reaction. Smiling? A symphony to His ears?

The earth was filled with violence and all the thoughts of men’s hearts was continually evil all the time. It took Noah 120 years to build that ark. No doubt he had lots of opportunity to tell people why. If they chose not to listen, they have no one but themselves to blame.

God does not glibly chose to destroy. He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. God is not the author of evil and does not believe in a capricious evil way.

You do not have God over a barrel. You will not be able to use this against God to hold over Him and blackmail Him when you stand before Him some day.

But again, it’s amazing the lengths people will go to in creating fantasy with which to condemn God and justify their own anger and hatred of Him.

If your God were the real one, I wouldn’t want to believe in him either.


225 posted on 05/18/2007 6:04:08 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
The earth was filled with violence and all the thoughts of men’s hearts was continually evil all the time. It took Noah 120 years to build that ark. No doubt he had lots of opportunity to tell people why. If they chose not to listen, they have no one but themselves to blame.

First, I can't believe you believe, really believe, that every single person on the planet was acting in an evil way toward each other. You can't even have societies when that's the case. There has to be a social contract for societies to function. So, you're saying you think that there was no civilization on the planet at the time of Noah. In fact, Noah could not have built an ark in that environment.

Second, Noah couldn't reach every person on the planet to tell them that the world was about to be destroyed. And why would anyone believe him? If someone came up to you today and said that, would you quit everything you were doing to follow the advice of an apparent apocalyptic lunatic? How can you suggest the uncorroborated rantings of a crazy person is fair warning? And how would Noah have the time to build an ark and go on tour warning everyone? God destroyed everyone, not just the people in Noah's neighborhood.

God does not glibly chose to destroy. He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. God is not the author of evil and does not believe in a capricious evil way.

God would choose a different, more humane method of destruction if he were not glib about his destruction. My wife has a dog. It's a Newfie. It's huge and doesn't obey me. It barely obeys her. She isn't able to take it out in the morning and bring it inside at night. This dog jumps and tries to bite me (perhaps playfully) when I bring it inside at night and is strong enough and has a low enough center of gravity (like an NFL running back) to nearly pull my arm out when it decides to burst away from me to chase a squirrel. I wouldn't drown my wife's dog, period. God blew up Sodom and Gomorrah with fire. That's not humane. We don't set fire to any of our death row inmates. God has total power and uses it uncreatively. He does that in the stories, IMO, because God isn't real and the authors of those stories wrote what they knew-- fire and water. God didn't drop a neutron bomb on Sodom and Gomorrah because the authors couldn't conceive of such a thing. The Bible is written exactly the way you'd imagine it would be written if it were just a series of folk tales.

If God isn't the author of evil, who is? Lucifer was once good, but then evil. How does evil appear in Paradise before Lucifer is kicked out of Paradise because of being evil? Someone had to have Lucifer's job as author of evil before he had it, right?

You do not have God over a barrel. You will not be able to use this against God to hold over Him and blackmail Him when you stand before Him some day.

If God is the mass murderer depicted in the Bible, I have no expectations about what he will do because such people have totally unreliable behavior patterns. God didn't destroy Nazi Germany in a storm of fire and brimstone from Heaven. He didn't destroy Stalin's Soviet Union. He didn't destroy Imperialist Japan or the Incas, Aztecs, Mayas or the great Islamic Empires (Ottoman, Safavid, etc.). All of these clearly anti-God empires just died of natural causes, basically. There is no reliable record of God doing what God did in the Old Testament or doing it at any time thereafter even with just cause and so there is no reason to believe that he ever did those things or feels like doing them now. Who knows, maybe he's gotten nicer in his old age or something. It boggles the mind that somehow S&G were so ungodly that God couldn't stand it any longer, but that no places that are perhaps obviously just as ungodly both today and in the past, if not more so, are left un-destroyed by God.

226 posted on 05/18/2007 9:17:03 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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