Domestic Manufacturers Group Says “New Trade Policy” Ignores Producers’ and Workers’ Real Interests

American Chronicle ^ | 05/11/2007 | Newswire Services

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Interesting article.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Ping of interest.

[1rudeboy]

Thanks. I just learned of the news yesterday. My first reaction is that it is a “sell out” also, but from a completely different perspective.

[ClaireSolt]

Cap the trae deficit. What a joke. Anyone that proposes measures like this designed to inflict pain on the populace should go to jail.

[liberty or death]

“The latter approach inevitably has helped boost the U.S. trade deficit to already dangerous levels because it involves countries too poor to become consumers of U.S.-made goods but able to become producers of goods destined for the U.S. market.”

The above quote is valid but it misses the larger mark that countries like China use slave labor.

I produce a product with automation. The Chinese can make the product by hand and offer it at half the price. If we tried to make it by hand, our price would be 10 times theirs.

My wife and I see the prices of Chinese products and just can’t believe its possible even with slave labor and free transcontinental shipping to sell the stuff so cheap. I fear something is going on thats far more sinister than we realize.

[1rudeboy]

That one jumped out at me also. So much so that I'm wondering if someone meant to say cap the budget deficit.

[grey_whiskers]

Rant mode ON:

The corporations are chasing profits, fine.

But the politicians who consistently tilt the playing field against the United States, in return for nebulous promises of someday possibly having new markets open up...

The US did just fine for a long time by letting the Third World alone.

It is only the past 20 years or so that there has been wholesale importation of students from the Third World to become the knowledge workers, followed by importation of workers via H-1B and L-1 visas for high-paying jobs, and the eradication of the US border to take out the pay scale for the lower classes; and the offshoring of manufacturing to eliminate the working classes.

I am beginning to fear that some of the tin-foil hat people are right, and that this is designed to ensure the destruction of the middle class in the US, and the destruction of the US as a world power.

Rant mode OFF.

No Cheers, unfortunately.

[grey_whiskers]

My wife and I see the prices of Chinese products and just can’t believe its possible even with slave labor and free transcontinental shipping to sell the stuff so cheap. I fear something is going on thats far more sinister than we realize.

The Chinese are out-polluting the Eastern Europeans and are more corrupt than the Democrats.

Lack of health or environmental standards, no health care, slave wages, bribes, and government subsidies work wonders.

The days of the robber baron have returned!

I think Bush is doing the globalist thing in order to attempt to stave off massive social destabilization in India and China, as their population of working age folks with no hope of a job skyrockets.

He's still wrong though: the way to approach the problem is to have those countries produce for domestic consumption, rather than for export to the US.

Cheers!

[ClaireSolt]

OH where, oh where did the middle class go? They got rich. That’s where. And then they sent their kids to college to study to be docs and lawyers.

[liberty or death]

I like you don’t see the problem being solved in one administration without massive destabilization. Which we know would mean more of our boys out trying hold this world together.

As my Bro, an (AF LtCol) says, “ We are building one of the largest militarys in the world, and it's not ours!”

[grey_whiskers]

OH where, oh where did the middle class go? They got rich. That’s where. And then they sent their kids to college to study to be docs and lawyers.

Some did, some didn't.

Speaking of doctors and lawyers, here's a chestnut for you.

Would you rather be a lawyer's proctologist or a proctologist's lawyer? They both do pretty much the same thing to each other...

Cheers!

[1rudeboy]

Not trying to sidetrack the thread, but I had a lawyer once lament to me (over a good number of drinks) that, “people spend years effing-up their lives and then walk into my office expecting me to make things right for a hundred bucks.” I thought, there’s a kernel of truth in there.

[Paperdoll]

PING

[Ultra Sonic 007]

QFT

If there’s one thing about American society today that I despise, it’s the fixation with lawsuits.

[Paperdoll]

>Oh where, oh where did the middle class go? They got rich.<
>>Some did and some didn’t.<<

And some are hangling on by their finger nails.

Bring back, bring back, oh bring back our jobs to US.

[Paperdoll]

>If there’s one thing about American society today tht I despise, it’s the fixation with lawsuits.<

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet! If HB 1592 (the Hate Crime bill) is passed, all lawyers will be singing hallelujah!

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bring back, bring back, oh bring back our jobs to US.

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[airborne]

– promptly passing the bipartisan border equalization tax measure about to be introduced by Reps. Bill Pascrell (D-NJ), Michael Michaud (D-ME), Duncan Hunter (R-CA), and Walter Jones (R-NC). This bill would redress the inequities faced by U.S.-based producers by the World Trade Organization’s failure to address the trade distortions created by foreign Value Added Tax systems and their rebates to exporters.

We need to stop pretending there's such a thing as free trade.

Our DC Representatives need to assure we have "fair trade".

[Toddsterpatriot]

Our DC Representatives need to assure we have "fair trade".

What is your definition of fair trade?

[1rudeboy]

Whatever buys the most votes.