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Giuliani clarifies his stand on abortion, gays and guns: abortion one of his "core beliefs."
heraldnet.com ^ | May 12, 2007 | Nation briefly

Posted on 05/12/2007 2:07:09 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

HOUSTON - In a shift of tactics, Republican presidential contender Rudolph Giuliani acknowledged his liberal views Friday, calling a woman's right to choose an abortion one of his "core beliefs." After a week of criticism for making contradictory comments about abortion, Giuliani also said he backs gay domestic partnerships that aren't marriage and the right of states to restrict guns. Giuliani, a New York Catholic who once considered the priesthood, chose to make his stand before a conservative, Protestant audience at Houston Baptist University in an appearance arranged just Wednesday.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; banglist; cultureofdeath; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; homosexualagenda; ifitquackslikeaduck; prolife; rkba; toprino
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To: NewHampshireDuo

No, actually, I think what he said was “A zebra never changes its spots.”


41 posted on 05/12/2007 5:31:39 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: hinckley buzzard
He also spoke about our national motto, “E pluribus Unum..out of one, many.”

He probably really meant this one...LOL. Thanks everyone for the Gore quotes.

42 posted on 05/12/2007 5:31:47 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: OldArmy52
Well, maybe Rudy and Bloomberg could run as a team: Pres & VP.

I think there are going to be at least four major candidates in November 2008.

The last time THAT happened was 1860, and we know what followed that.

There will be a Republican, probably Mitt. There will be a Tancredoite, perhaps Tom his own self. There will be her. And there will be a fusion ticket, McCain or Giuliani with a Democrat.

43 posted on 05/12/2007 5:33:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: hoosierham
A big-tent party where the members do not share core beliefs is nothing more than a coalition.

Like the Democrats who ruled from 1932-1994.

Coalitions are necessary to stay on top in this country. When coalitions break down, you have frequent power changes, at best, and civil war, at worst.

44 posted on 05/12/2007 5:35:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Giuliani clarifies his stand

"I'm a Liberal Democrat"

Thanks for the clarification, Rudy.

45 posted on 05/12/2007 5:40:15 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Jim Robinson
Bye-bye Rudy! Your "core beliefs" are in direct opposition with mine.

Be gone!

46 posted on 05/12/2007 5:49:57 AM PDT by Don Carlos (MSgt, USAF (Ret))
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To: Jim Robinson

I expect Giuliani has clarified himself effectively out of the race. I do respect the man for being forthright, at least after he saw that trying to fudge was just leading rapidly into the Swamp. If he retains his forthrightness, I would not be averse to seeing him as a VP or SecState. SecState might be the best slot for him and for the country. It needs a stubborn man. Rice folded right into the StatDept culture after only a couple of months and thereby took herself right out of presidential speculation.


47 posted on 05/12/2007 5:51:13 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Giuliani really had no choice if he is to retain credibility. The quality that propelled him this far is his stubbornness and straightforwardness. He tried to waffle but it didn’t wash with the public, left or right. I suspect it didn’t go over with him, either. He said to himself, hey who the hell is this talking with my mouth? I respect him for that. I hope to see him remain in public life but not as president or senator.
He would be my choice for State so long as he has a mandate to clean the place out.


48 posted on 05/12/2007 5:56:46 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Jim Robinson; OldArmy52

Giuliani really had no choice if he is to retain credibility. The quality that propelled him this far is his stubbornness and straightforwardness. He tried to waffle but it didn’t wash with the public, left or right. I suspect it didn’t go over with him, either. He said to himself, hey who the hell is this talking with my mouth? I respect him for that. I hope to see him remain in public life but not as president or senator.
He would be my choice for State so long as he has a mandate to clean the place out.


49 posted on 05/12/2007 6:00:14 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: veritas2002
Rudy has just provided himself with the first SELF-ABORTION. He’s history.

LOL! Someone better tell Shawn Hanity. He keeps making a fool of himself shilling for his bud Rudy.

50 posted on 05/12/2007 6:04:13 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: RegulatorCountry

I saw about 2 minutes of Rudy’s last stand and he had his hankie in his hand wiping the rino-dome.


51 posted on 05/12/2007 6:05:36 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Chuck Dent
Only if you define SoCons as the party. What happens if a new version of the GOP is crafted that appeals even more to the center?

The Gang of 14 basically controls the left and right in the Senate regarding judicial nominations.

However, that only works because of the 60 vote cloture rule. It won't work with a simple majority. IMO the center is only about 25-30 percent of the electorate. They are the swing vote in presidential elections, but they are not enough in their own right to win either a nomination or the general.

52 posted on 05/12/2007 6:08:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: suijuris
Someone better tell Shawn Hanity. He keeps making a fool of himself shilling for his bud Rudy.

What do you expect from a construction worker hack.

53 posted on 05/12/2007 6:17:36 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov. 5, 1979.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Giuliani would be a miserable disaster for the GOP. And he would lose to Hillary, whose presidency would be a miserable disaster for the USA.


54 posted on 05/12/2007 6:23:33 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: LowOiL
Good.. forwarded to my pastor

Good. That action, when it reaches critical mass, is what will sink the Good Ship Juliannie. We must remember that most folks are not the political junkies that we are.

55 posted on 05/12/2007 6:26:31 AM PDT by don-o (We are "THEY")
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To: kingu

I think you’d find that Fred’s views pretty much parallel those of Rudy.


56 posted on 05/12/2007 6:29:23 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Chuck Dent
“Politics is simply calculus writ large. The only question relevant to Rudy is simply: can he attract more from the left than he loses on the right?

With NY, CA & FL lined up with early primaries, this strategy has every chance of winning. So then the next shoe drops: what do SoCons do? Form a 3rd party?”

Bla Bla Bla. Rooty is a moron and his political advisers don’t have brains enough to pound sand in a rat hole.

Rooty is pro abortion, pro queer agenda, and anti gun.

Those are all hot button issues that are a deal breaker for a vast majority of the population.

You can’t find 10% of the population on either side of the isle that agrees with him on all of those issues but there is way over 50% that would vote against him because of that combination or even one of them.

That doesn’t even count his other problems of illegal sanctuary cities and being an authoritarian jerk.

More that 50% of the Rats are against gun control and the queer agenda and its much higher on the Republican side.

Now that the greasy little weasel has come out and admitted what his core beliefs are the dummies that didn’t believe it before will stop supporting him.

He has no redeeming qualities that aren’t found in much better candidates at an even greater degree.

Stick a fork in that liberal puke, he’s done.

57 posted on 05/12/2007 6:42:50 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
there is way over 50% that would vote against him because of that combination or even one of them.

Bookmarked for future review after the FL/NY/NJ/CA primaries. Rudy is simply nationalizing Arnie's CA campaign. It's not difficult to understand the political strategy, nor is difficult to work out the electoral math.

So, the real question remains: what do SoCons do after he becomes the 2008 GOP nominee?

58 posted on 05/12/2007 6:50:00 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: Chuck Dent

“So, the real question remains: what do SoCons do after he becomes the 2008 GOP nominee?”

It wont happen.


59 posted on 05/12/2007 6:55:09 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Redmen4ever
I think you’d find that Fred’s views pretty much parallel those of Rudy.

I think you better get yer fireproof undies on.....

60 posted on 05/12/2007 6:56:06 AM PDT by don-o (We are "THEY")
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