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RON PAUL, not Mitt Romney, won the first GOP Debate
Renew America ^ | May 8, 2007 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 05/11/2007 3:15:42 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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To: TomB

Questions That Won’t Be Asked About Iraq
by Representative Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
10 September 2002

Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq. I am concerned there are some questions that won’t be asked — and maybe will not even be allowed to be asked. Here are some questions I would like answered by those who are urging us to start this war.

Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they could retaliate?

Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now because we know it cannot retaliate — which just confirms that there is no real threat?

Is it not true that those who argue that even with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be hiding weapons, at the same time imply that we can be more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?

Is it not true that the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?

Is it not true that the intelligence community has been unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at all, much less the attacks on the United States last year? Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?

Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no confirmed evidence of Iraq’s links to terrorism?

Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta and Iraqi intelligence took place?

Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the administration claimed al-Qaeda were hiding out, is in the control of our “allies,” the Kurds?

Is it not true that the vast majority of al-Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called allies?

Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming daily occurrences; and that according to a recent UN report the al-Qaeda “is, by all accounts, alive and well and poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses.”

Why are we taking precious military and intelligence resources away from tracking down those who did attack the United States — and who may again attack the United States — and using them to invade countries that have not attacked the United States?

Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab world’s worst suspicions about the US, and isn’t this what bin Laden wanted?

How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no navy or air force, and now has an army one-fifth the size of twelve years ago, which even then proved totally inept at defending the country?

Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents, contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted to rely on the UN for permission to go to war?

Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis, which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely controlled by Iran not Iraq?

Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000 US soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?

Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American casualties in a war against a country that does not have the capacity to attack the United States?

Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to “build democracy” there?

Iraq’s alleged violations of UN resolutions are given as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that hundreds of UN Resolutions have been ignored by various countries without penalty?

Did former President Bush not cite the UN Resolution of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason we can march into Baghdad?

Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States without specific approval from the United Nations?

If we claim membership in the international community and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity toward us by both friend and foe?

How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharaf in Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically-elected president?

Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that revealed the U.S. knowingly supplied chemical and biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as late as 1992 — including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack on a Kurdish village?

Did we not assist Saddam Hussein’s rise to power by supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran, which at the time we actively supported?

Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or legitimate US policy?

Why do the oil company executives strongly support this war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?

Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are confident that they won’t have to personally fight this war are more anxious for this war than our generals?

What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it wanted?

Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?

Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?

Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the less likely disagreements will be settled by war?

Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and — not coincidentally — we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?

Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its intelligence services, was an active supporter and key organizer of the Taliban?

Why don’t those who want war bring a formal declaration of war resolution to the floor of Congress?

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

He asked these questions 5 years ago.

They have never been answered.

Why don’t you tackle them?


281 posted on 05/13/2007 2:36:00 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: KDD
Why don’t you tackle them?

It is interesting to watch the mental gymnastics you attempt in order to deflect the difficult questions that have been brought up about "your" candidate. Instead of defending him against the charges, you have set up and knocked down strawmen (well, "a" government could fake and invasion), flung completely wrong ad hominems (you support Rudy!!! Burn him!), and tried to change the subject (immediately above).

None of that changes the fact that Ron Paul has accused the president of planning another "Gulf of Tonkin", and has gotten in to a very conventient bed with Dennis Kucinich to promise to reopen the investigation (as well as old wounds better left to heal) into a supposed conspiracy of the government concerning 9-11. Both of those positions for me, personally, are as bad as supporting abortion or gun control.

But you, because you obviously worship the man, will turn a blind eye to these awful things and continue to support him.

282 posted on 05/13/2007 2:48:04 PM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: TomB
We disagree. Much of what you post is pure claptrap. IMO

You appear to have the mindset of the NE liberal Rino, and you are free to worship government, but our positions in opposition seem to create acrimony between us. Before it degenerates into such insults as “when I want any lip from you I’ll rattle my zipper” or other such juvenile discourse, I’ll cease posting to you. Good day.

283 posted on 05/13/2007 3:19:55 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: KDD
Good Lord. More evading and ad hominem.

We disagree. Much of what you post is pure claptrap. IMO

You keep accusing me of things, and you have never, ever been able to substantiate anyting. Why should anyone believe what you write about me?

Please post specific examples of what I posted, with reasons why they are "claptrap".

You appear to have the mindset of the NE liberal Rino,

Why? Please be specific.

and you are free to worship government,

Give me one example of a post where I "worship" government.

Before it degenerates into such insults as “when I want any lip from you I’ll rattle my zipper” or other such juvenile discourse,

Heh, projection at its finest.

I’ll cease posting to you. Good day.

Of course you will. In all this time you've completely avioded even trying to defend Paul and his sickening statements. So I agree, run away.

That a true believer such as yourself can't defend him doesn't speak well of the candidate, or what he has said.

284 posted on 05/13/2007 4:10:05 PM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Excellent response.


285 posted on 05/14/2007 5:57:50 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: The_Eaglet

Flip-flopping by any other name...


286 posted on 05/16/2007 9:37:00 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (Death to international Islam)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

BUMP

Go Ron Go !!!!


287 posted on 05/17/2007 8:30:26 PM PDT by animusliberti
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"Paul, not Romney, won first GOP debate the Leather bound Portfolio with the shiny Eagle Escutcheon"

Congratulations, Dr. Paul! Woot-woot!

:O)

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288 posted on 05/17/2007 8:35:04 PM PDT by papasmurf (FRed one liners...click my name. FRed & JC , for Pres.and VeePee.)
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To: jveritas
We only let him in the debate 'cause he resembles Pat Paulson (RIP).

:O)

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289 posted on 05/17/2007 8:39:25 PM PDT by papasmurf (FRed one liners...click my name. FRed & JC , for Pres.and VeePee.)
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To: Vaquero
I have more of those for you. Clcik on my name.

:O)

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290 posted on 05/17/2007 8:41:15 PM PDT by papasmurf (FRed one liners...click my name. FRed & JC , for Pres.and VeePee.)
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To: Vaquero
I have more of those for you. Click on my name.

:O)

P
291 posted on 05/17/2007 8:41:24 PM PDT by papasmurf (FRed one liners...click my name. FRed & JC , for Pres.and VeePee.)
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To: animusliberti; OrthodoxPresbyterian; cva66snipe; George W. Bush; Jeremydmccann
Linda Muller Endorses Ron Paul
292 posted on 05/21/2007 6:01:42 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet

Wow. There’s a name no one has heard in the last seven years.


293 posted on 05/21/2007 6:08:03 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

Mrs. Muller has been active in rallying support for better border security. I have managed to stay on her mailing list.


294 posted on 05/21/2007 6:15:56 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet

Hmm...I didn’t recall you on the old Brigade bump lists. Still, Muller’s help is welcome.


295 posted on 05/21/2007 3:10:13 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

I was not on brigade bump lists on FR.


296 posted on 05/22/2007 7:32:32 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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