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Yes Smith was far advanced, looking through the Urim and Thurim seer stones to decipher the Golden tablets, until they disappeared and he was forced to translate through his hat looking at the black rock he’d pulled up from a nearby well.

His translation of the Egyptian hieroglyphics were also beyond his time, so far beyond that it turned out he’d misrepresented them as ancient biblical books instead of the petty lists of Egyptian funery gods they turned out to be.

And he certainly showed his abilities with his signature on a three dollar bill his unchartered bank put out, until it collapsed with a trail of fraud.

But hey, Smith was ahead of his times in opposing slavery, that’s why you needed that special revelation in 1978.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 10:58:19 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

Since you are attacking Mormons pretty severely here, can I just counter that by saying you have no idea what you are talking about?

Shall we investigate your beliefs and see how sophisticated your understanding of the nature of the God head(assuming you are christian) is? Most evangelists are great people, but their relgious understanding I find is routlinely entry level. Simple is good, but entry level is not the same thing(it’s a lack of understanding of their own beliefs). If you look at the 13 articles of faith that we believe as Mormmon(i.e., Christians), it would be hard for you to disagree with any of the 13, if you even understand much of what Christianity in the bible really is.


16 posted on 05/11/2007 11:11:36 AM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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LDS (Mormon) war fatalities
Deseret Morning News
Photo (Deseret Morning News graphic)

23 posted on 05/11/2007 11:44:14 AM PDT by nowandlater
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I didn't say Joseph Smith was a saint, just that it's wrong to take a sentence out of context and make him out to be worse than the vast majority of other 19th century Americans on race and slavery.

On those specific issue, he was better than the vast majority of his countrymen.

Whatever else was wrong about Smith, he didn't exclude Blacks from his priesthood, and he went further in his belief in racial equality than most of his countrymen.

More here

133 posted on 05/12/2007 11:23:26 AM PDT by x
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