Tories storm out of meeting on sharing energy with U.S

canada,com ^ | May 11, 2007 | Kelly Patterson

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Ethanol would be a waste, even if it could be produced from petroleum (lower gas mileage, can’t transport by pipeline, can’t ignite by itself at low temperatures, and so on).

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

The NAU is a piece of bad fiction. The arrogance of the SPP bureaucrats is not.

[Badeye]

“The NAU is a piece of bad fiction. The arrogance of the SPP bureaucrats is not.”

100% agreement here.
I’ve often thought the NAU stuff was a direct result of one of Clive Cussler’s lesser known novels called ‘Night Probe’.

The heart of that Dirk Pitt ‘daring do’ was a long lost treaty between the United States and Canada, of which one copy of the signed treaty was thought to be on a train that had gone off a bridge a hundred years ago.

Fun read, but ever since it was published in the 1980’s this NAU stuff has started popping up, especially on the fringe political websites.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Canada has huge surpluses of energy and is a big net exporter. The idea that Canada will be "left in the dark" is just nuts.

That may be so, but no country should be mandated by some international nitwit bureaucrat to send part of its energy supply to another country.

[kerryusama04]

I hope we can import the ethanol, as long as there absolutely HAS to be an ethanol scam imposed on America. Our home-grown corn should be used for feeding people.

Ethanol is stemming out of a demand for us to produce even a miniscule of energy domestically. If we could get them to drill somewhere in the US, ethanaol demand would vaporize.

[colorado tanker]

but no country should be mandated by some international nitwit bureaucrat to send part of its energy supply to another country

And just who do you think is doing that - or even could do that?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

The SPP bureaucrats. I don’t believe in the NAU stuff, by the way. The SPP, on the other hand, is quite real.

[ckilmer]

Sorry, I’ve noted a coorelation between the NAU ranters, and the 9/11 Bush Knew crowd, and the WTC Building 7 kooks.

No thanks. I live in the real world.

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this is laughable. you’re a troll.

[Badeye]

Really? Gee, then I’m the longest surviving ‘troll’ in FR history....(chuckle)

[GMMAC]

Among the factors these conspiracy freaks don't appreciate and/or willfully ignore:

Unlike Stateside, where you've got xenophobic moonbats coming at you from both ends of your political spectrum, in Canada virtually all of their 'ultra-nationalist' fellow travelers - like Laxer above & Mel Hurtig, Maude Barlow et al - are long-time, well known, hard left extremists.

While in the U.S. 'patriotism' & 'nationalism' are pretty much interchangeable terms and/or one & the same thing, up here they're not and the latter is largely a socialist euphemism for anti-Americanism.

Canadian conservatives - other than a few old-time pro-British 'monarchists' who've yet to do us the favor of dying-off - tend to be very USA-friendly & display a 'patriotism' more or less limited to taking pride in our history & cultural traditions & cheering on their 'home team' during international sporting events.

Canadian FReepers are unabashedly pro-American (both herein & at home) and, accordingly, find outright bashing of Canada & all Canadians as well as the thinly veiled sort evident on threads like this one incredibly offensive.

[Badeye]

“Canadian FReepers are unabashedly pro-American (both herein & at home) and, accordingly, find outright bashing of Canada & all Canadians as well as the thinly veiled sort evident on threads like this one incredibly offensive.”

I sit on a council in my industry with several Canadian’s, and they express embarrassment at the anti American stuff thats come out from their elected officials on a routine basis.

[colorado tanker]

Well, I hope you don’t think my posts bashed Canada. I’m a Canadaphile, even though I wasn’t too fond of the unmourned Liberal government. I still have a soft spot for the old flag with the Union Jack in it.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I have no intention of bashing Canada and Canadians, just the unconstitutional SPP. I don’t believe in the NAU stuff.

[GMMAC]

"... embarrassment at the anti American stuff thats come out from their elected officials on a routine basis ..."

ahem ... past tense please:

[GMMAC]

I don't consider any of you anything but good FRiends - merely thought I'd 'preach to the choir' a bit when it comes to the distaste all Kanuckistani FRrepers have for both moonbat conspiracy theories & being lumped in with Mexicans.

I'm also sick of - as well as find downright Trollish - threads initiated by a one trick pony poster which habitually & shamelessly cite the dregs of Canada's ultra-nationalist lunatic fringe, like Laxer above, as supposed - snort !!! - friends of America.

Conservative MP's rightly walked out on this moonbattery ???
Good! I'm now kissing my CPC membership card in proper gratitude!

[Badeye]

I remember the first 24 hours after 9/11.

[GMMAC]

Thanks for remembering & you're more than welcome.

Also publicly recalling that, for well over 150 years now, there's never been a single instance where EITHER nation failed to come to the other's aid in time of domestic tragedy and/or catastrophe and, as well, that members of the Military from both have been awarded the other's highest bravery/gallantry commendations on numerous occasions never fails to knot the panties FR's moronic xenophobic minority while rightly earning appropriate cross-border gratitude.

[Badeye]

“Also publicly recalling that, for well over 150 years now, there’s never been a single instance where EITHER nation failed to come to the other’s aid in time of domestic tragedy and/or catastrophe and, as well, that members of the Military from both have been awarded the other’s highest bravery/gallantry commendations on numerous occasions never fails to knot the panties FR’s moronic xenophobic minority while rightly earning appropriate cross-border gratitude.”

As I recall it, there was a ‘problem’ the first couple of days, a reason Powell didn’t acknowledge the Canadian government in the immediate aftermath.

You have to admit the government at that moment was in fact anti American, anti Bush. The snarky/ugly/profane comments that dribbled out during that time frame remain...well, snarky/ugly and profane.

I don’t for an instant believe those comments reflected the average Canadian, btw, far from it.

[GMMAC]

While readily acknowledging the sort of comments you refer to from time to time from various elements with both the Chretien & Martin Liberal regimes, I don't recall any in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.

Especially, with two dozen of our own citizens murdered in the WTC - not to mention numerous other victims with family & friendship ties to Canada - and massive pro-American rallies taking place all across the nation, commies with any brains whatsoever on both sides of the border STFU at least temporarily.

Further and in a more general sense, the left's anti-Americanism is deemed so nationally embarrassing as well as self-evidently detrimental to both cross-border goodwill & trade it tends to really rally the Conservative base up here:

Personally, rather than rely on RINO Powell, I'll go with the more trustworthy recollections of U.S. Navy Captain (Retired) David E. Meadows who was actually at the Pentagon on 9/11 when it comes to adjudging Canada's 9/11 response.
Thank you, Captain Meadows and God Bless America!

[Badeye]

No disputing the embarrassment from the leftwing rants led to the new beginning in Canada we see today. And its not worth addressing the comments and or ‘slights’ noted that first week after 9/11.

I like Canadians.