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To: Dick Bachert

Neal is playing a shell game here. There is no free ride. What Neal neglects to tell you is under the fairtax you either accept 30% lower wages or you pay 30% more for goods. There is no way around it. Taxes have to come from someplace. In Neal’s world taxes just magically appear in the coffers.


3 posted on 05/11/2007 5:41:19 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Income taxes cause prices of goods to increase. Remove the income and FICA taxes and any increase due to the FairTax is significantly reduced. The key is that the FairTax goes after consumption not savings and productivity.
5 posted on 05/11/2007 5:50:23 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Always Right
...under the fairtax you either accept 30% lower wages or you pay 30% more for goods. There is no way around it.

You have been shown the error of that statement literally hundreds of times on these threads yet you continue to repeat it. Why?

11 posted on 05/11/2007 6:38:21 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Always Right
It is the current tax system that is a shell game. The FairTax was designed to be revenue neutral. You pay just as much tax as with the current system but have a lot more control and visibility with much less hassle and favoritism. And to boot get rid of the IRS and the gov't intrusion into our lives.
12 posted on 05/11/2007 6:43:27 AM PDT by atom99
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To: Always Right

“What Neal neglects to tell you is under the fairtax you either accept 30% lower wages or you pay 30% more for goods. “

Get another cup of coffee and think about this again.

Those two things are not really equivalent. Yes, you will have to pay a high tax on goods you buy — outside of food and medication — but if you don’t spend any money on other stuff you don’t have any taxes taken out. That means you can choose how much you pay in taxes by how high a lifestyle you want to live. For example, if you can drive a car until the wheels fall off instead of buying a new one every two years then you won’t pay nearly as much tax as someone who feels the need to do that.

This is not the same as taking a 30% pay cut (which is what you are doing now). That 30% ALREADY comes out of your paycheck and you don’t have the ability to choose your tax level based on your desired lifestyle, it comes out no matter what.

That’s the difference. Yes, there is a price to be paid but that price can pretty much be decided by you instead of the gov’t.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 6:45:01 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Always Right
I disagree, but it doesn’t matter. As long as the gub’mint can’t play preferences or go poking about in your affairs to “find” money, it is an improvement.
48 posted on 05/11/2007 8:59:59 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Always Right

Always Wrong,

How can you support the idea of an ‘Income’ tax over the FairTax? It’s not a question of paying less tax, it never was. It’s the need to get the stinking KGB IRS out of American lives.

And the author makes the point clear that under the FairTax Congress will have to deal fairly with its constituents rather than succumb to bribery.

There’s only one reason to oppose the FairTax and that is if your livelihood depends on the ‘Income’ tax.


60 posted on 05/11/2007 9:22:10 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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