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The red dawn scenario is very possible but it wont happen like that, they would need america on its knees first. I dont know about you guys but i realy see it happening in the near futur maby in the next 2 or 3 years. Seeing russia planting that flag in the north pole only tells me one thing, the world is growing short of oil and those that still have it cant sell to everyone. Let me get to the point, the middle east and its oil is currently guarded by america and we arnt gonna let the iraqi’s score a big deal with anyone, mainly booming china and the booming european union witch is curently the powerfulest economy and military power in the world. This is gonna cause problems in the futur for an oil starving world minus brazil and half of africa. Right now as we speek tenchions are growing and russia, china, the UN and all of south east asia want us away from the middle east and ther bargaining tables. As to my other point (america on its knees) lol this is easy, Right now china has the 3rd largest sub fleet in the world combined with russia they would have more subs then the world combined, America’s Achilles heal is its top water navy. Roughly 1 year ago a chinese sub stalked an american kitty class aircraft carrier for 2 days, thats in the middle of a carrier strike force consisting of many ships it traveled right under it. roughly 8 or 9 mounths ago china shot down ther own out dated satellite witch only america and russia previously had that ability but now they also have the capability. Now i explane the scenario, a preimptive strike, pearl harbor but 100 times that. China could shoot down many low orbating satellites, take out many carrier groups including those stationed in the Persian gulf, flood the middle east with troops, fighter jets, tanks and artilary, followed and backed by the arianians and russia, spearhead straight threw devide our forces and cause a big ass mess and to top it off surround the united states with a sub fleet spread out to form a wolf like ambush nets like the germans did in ww2, sink all cargo ships and the united states would be struck with famine. Do any of you guys think of what america’s population of over 300 million would do with not enough food? we have became so reliant on fast food and other countries food that ther is little need for farm feilds in america anymore america would be fair game and as i said brought to its knees. The UN wouldnt care for us, they would be battleing the asian nations for the oil and the only releive ther would be is from canada, but i doubt that canada could feed over 300 million mouths including ther own 36 million citizens. Hell ill tell you right now that our country could fall to its knees without the help of other countries lol our nation is built on the stock market witch is nothing but air, thers no money ther, america is so in dept that if we fell into another great depression we wouldnt be able to recover from it. America has grown to be realy powerfull and it took only about 70 years, in the history of man thats a blink of an eye. when we fall it will be over night......