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Sheik says it's OK to kill children in battle
News Australia ^ | 5/9/07 | Richard K

Posted on 05/09/2007 8:14:02 PM PDT by voletti

A MUSLIM leader has told his students that it is "obligatory" for all Muslims to engage in jihad if an Islamic country is under attack, even if it means killing the enemy's children. Teachings Sheik Shady Suleiman, a youth leader at Lakemba Mosque in Sydney's southeast, told his students in a one-hour Arabic and English lecture that it would be "self defence" to kill children who were attacking them in battle. Muslim leaders yesterday attacked the 29-year-old cleric, who has a substantial following in Sydney and is deputy to leader Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali.

They accused him of delivering a message contrary to that of Prophet Mohammed who said children should not be killed in war. Prominent Sydney-based imam Khalil Shami said Sheik Shady's message was "dangerous" because it was open to being misconstrued by young Muslims.

"It is very dangerous," he said. "Because ... he puts in their minds that they have to do this, and he prepares them for something wrong for sure."

Opposing views among Muslims

The nation's leading spiritual Muslim woman Aziza Abdel-Halim said Sheik Shady's message diverged from Islamic teachings that prohibit the killing of children.

In a lecture titled Rulings on Performing Jihad, obtained by The Australian, Sheik Shady differentiates between defensive and offensive jihad and quotes the Prophet by saying anyone who fights to defend their land, soul, and wealth was considered a "Shahid" (martyr).

"If attackers or invaders want to invade a Muslim country or attack a Muslim country then it's obligatory on every Muslim ... to fight and protect the country," he says.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; lakemba; lakembamosque; mohammed; mosque; muslim; muslims; rop; sharia; sharialaw; trop; wot
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1 posted on 05/09/2007 8:14:05 PM PDT by voletti
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To: voletti

Sick twisted b@stards. And our libs want us to pander to them —


2 posted on 05/09/2007 8:15:24 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: voletti
This SOB should be in jail or hell.

3 posted on 05/09/2007 8:15:32 PM PDT by b4its2late (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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I’d preferhim in the later.


4 posted on 05/09/2007 8:17:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: voletti

And people are suprised by this statement?

Islam is a sick twisted cult.


5 posted on 05/09/2007 8:18:52 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: voletti

And since muslims in non muslim lands are always considered to be at war.....


6 posted on 05/09/2007 8:19:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: voletti
Now, if the sheik said that it was OK to kill baby seals in jihad, Nancy Pelosi and AlGore would fight over who got to press the missile launch button.
7 posted on 05/09/2007 8:22:19 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: cripplecreek

That is scary.


8 posted on 05/09/2007 8:22:55 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: voletti; All

9 posted on 05/09/2007 8:24:41 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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“A MUSLIM leader has told his students that it is “obligatory” for all Muslims to engage in jihad if an Islamic country is under attack, even if it means killing the enemy’s children.”

This teaching may have been uttered in Australia but was also taken note of all over America by Muslims. Parents, use your brain. Look at the clock and see what time it is because government is certainly not watching it.


10 posted on 05/09/2007 8:28:22 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is a satanic cult.)
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To: Bosco
Scary indeed.

The bastardi seem 2 have no remorse, no shame, no apprehension of opprobrium or opposition...nothing!

Heck, I say they ought to dread the day we decide to suspend our ideals of humanism and methodically hunt ‘em down in a dance of death like nothing the world has ever seen...(:-@)

11 posted on 05/09/2007 8:28:41 PM PDT by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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>"it is "obligatory" for all Muslims to engage in jihad if an Islamic country is under attack, even if it means killing the enemy's children"

My my ... how "Peaceful" of them!!!!

12 posted on 05/09/2007 8:31:04 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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told his students in a one-hour Arabic and English lecture that it would be "self defence" to kill children who were attacking them in battle.

I don't see anything wrong with this statement. If I was a soldier with a "child" pointing a gun at me with the intent to kill me I would, reluctantly, shoot the child.

The real problem is that Islamists have no problem with killing innocent children who are no threat at all. It happens all the time in Iraq.

13 posted on 05/09/2007 8:35:18 PM PDT by Prokopton
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it would be "self defence" to kill children who were attacking them in battle.

Yep. Tragic but defensible and perhaps unavoidable.

14 posted on 05/09/2007 8:46:41 PM PDT by edsheppa
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it would be "self defence" to kill children who were attacking them in battle.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

15 posted on 05/09/2007 8:48:19 PM PDT by jordan8
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And this is news? Do you think they cared about “the children” before this statement?


16 posted on 05/09/2007 8:49:48 PM PDT by f150sound
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"Holy Men" like this are preaching in Mosques in this country too.

I imagine one could find the one, or ones, that preached to the 6 would be Jihadies that plotted to attack and kill soldiers at Ft. Dix.Only one of them is Arab (Jordanian/Palestinian) BTW, and if they wanted to dress properly and cut their hair and beards, the 4 born in Yugoslavia could look like any average Yankee infidel, and the Turk could pass as someone with just of touch of non European ancestry, American Indian for example, or even just someone of Italian ancestry.

I find it interesting that no arrest/arraignment pictures seem to have been released. All the pictures I've seen have been artist's sketches or what appears to be yearbook pictures, several years old.

Heck they released a booking picture of that wacky female Navy astronaut, why not of these guys?

17 posted on 05/09/2007 8:50:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Bosco

You said — “That is scary.”

Can you say “Beslan Massacre”?

http://kerryfoxlive.com/wordpress/?p=6422

The police departments are preparing for it here...


18 posted on 05/09/2007 8:52:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: EagleUSA

I fear for my younger siblings and their friends, a great many Bosnian and Albanian muslim students in local schools anymore. Some of them get together in concerted effort on a broad scale, it could be 4/20 (Columbine, VT) times a thousand.


19 posted on 05/09/2007 9:02:16 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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Teachings Sheik Shady Suleiman

I'm Sheik Shady, yes I'm the real Shady
All you other Sheik Shadys are just imitating
So won't the real Sheik Shady please stand up,
please stand up, please stand up?

20 posted on 05/09/2007 9:15:05 PM PDT by Teacher317
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