Voting From Rooftops: How Gun Industry Armed Osama bin Laden With .50 Caliber Rifles [BARF ALERT]

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[RexBeach]

“Hello. I’m from the Violence Policy Center, and I’ve got a secret! I’m an idiot! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHH!”

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Still not as effective as a truckload of fertilizer.

Metaphorically speaking, this article IS a truckload of fertilizer.

[P-40]

Ah! In the aisle with the exploding burkas. I’m always too embarrassed to go down that aisle....all that women stuff and all.

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In addition to penetrating vehicle armor, 50 caliber sniper rifles are capable of downing helicopters, destroying small aircraft, and penetrating the reinforced concrete and masonry walls of buildings.

Plus, they can sink an aircraft carrier and knock down skyscrapers.

/sarc & breathless handwringing alert

I own two "weapons" that can do everything they listed, except maybe down a helicopter. They're called "cars". (They can destroy small aircraft on the ground, okay?)

[PeteB570]

Ah, those things are a bit hard to walk around with under your average black trench coat.

Also, hitting anything at 1,000 yards or meters takes a bit more than taking it out of the box, slapping a scope on it and starting to blast away.

Me? I have a varied selection from .22 to .58. The proper tool for each and every job.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Aren’t armor-piercing incendiary rounds for civilians completely illegal no matter what the caliber?

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No.

[Charlespg]

[mountn man]

A sub MOA .50, which the Barrett is costs upwards of $8000 in long range sniper setup. A .338 Lapua in sniper set up would probably be 1/3 that. The gun is good to about 1500 yds.

The .50 is good for either anti personel or anti material, but is pretty much over kill (pardon the pun) for anti personel.

Very few people (very, very few) are good with any gun at 1000 yds.

If a person could consistently group his shots at 200 yds in the area of a quarter, Those same shots at 600 yds would cover a basket ball. At 1000 yds, a road sign the size of a speed limit sign. In other words, a good shooter would be lucky to hit someone at 1000 yds, let alone kill them.

Now imagine trying to hit a vehicle at 1000 yds with a API round. You "might" hit the target, but are you going to hit a vital area.

A world class sniper rifle in the wrong hands is virtually useless. An ordinary gun in the hands of a very well trained sniper, can still be a fairly accurate weapon out to 600 yds. Combine a world class rifle with a world class shooter and 2500 yds is attainable.

"IF" OBL did buy Barretts, at $8000 a pop, his men need ammo, at $2+ a round. They need 1000,s of rounds each just to become relatively profitient.

Next comes training. Where do they train and who trains them? 1000 yds is 6/10's of a mile. You need an area you can maintain for your shooting range. Who will teach you to shoot at 1000+yds? Achmed because he can shoot his m-16 at 400 yds?

[GuineaRabbit]

Rudy was for banning the .50BMG before he was against... uh no hrm... he’s still for banning it.

Even though 0 have been used in crimes in the nearly 100 years the round has been in US service.

[Little Ray]

There ARE people who can hit a target at 1000 yards:
This group is called the One Mile Club:

http://www.dlsports.com/omc_club.html

[longtermmemmory]

This is a targeted hit piece.

The left has ALWAYS intended to use the “police nature” of the terrorist threat to subdue individual rights in the USA.

Just look at the clinton efforts after Oaklahoma, or the FIRST world trad bombing. It was all about restricting PERSONAL constitutional rights of CITIZENS. They never looked outward.

The only answer the left has ever offered was the Gorelick Wall and the neutering of the CIA.

[sheik yerbouty]

Quel shi’ite!

[CGTRWK]

For God’s sake, Al Qaeda has genuine artillery, vehicle mounted 14.5mm machineguns, 155mm artillery shell IEDs, etc. etc. etc. and these bedwetters are wringing their hands over single shot rifles.

[weegee]

I thought that we were told that this is a small number of radicals who do not reflect upon the 1.3 billion muslims worldwide. And John F. Kerry told us to be prepared to accept a nusiance level of terrorist attacks.

So limiting gun sales is supposed to change that world future?

Only the DC sniper duo and the Islamic terrorist outside the CIA headquarters have gone the sniper route.

[Fido969]

You want my 50 caliber?

Molon Labe!

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Insurrectionist Slogan Popular In Civilian Sniper Culture

If you wussies at the VPC are going to use the saying, let's at least use the correct graphic:

[Hot Tabasco]

Me and my posse' are thinking about getting 5 of these bad motha Barretts with scopes to rob the local 7/11.......

Will I need to give an explanation to the bank to get the $40,000 + loan?

[Badeye]

“There ARE people who can hit a target at 1000 yards:
This group is called the One Mile Club:

http://www.dlsports.com/omc_club.html";

I don’t dispute that, and I’m familiar with the ‘club’.

My point is somebody not heavily involved in this sport can’t buy a .50 caliber rifle and hit a target at a thousand yards ‘right out of the box’ as the anti gun nuts try to claim.