[Hemingway's Ghost]

America should be governed under Christian morality. Most of the denominations you mention there aren't even Christian. With the exception of some Baptists.

So Catholics aren't even Christians, according to you? My, won't the Pope be surprised.

Of course, you've inadvertently demonstrated exactly the point I've been trying to make on this thread.

The morality that we extract law from should be Christian morality. That means no murder, theft, obscenity, contraception, prostitution, sodomy, murder, etc.

Why should I, or anyone else believe, that you are the authority on what constitutes Christian morality? You don't even believe some of the churches I identified above are Christian---I'm sure the members of those churches would beg to differ.

[LightBeam]

So Catholics aren't even Christians, according to you? My, won't the Pope be surprised. Of course, you've inadvertently demonstrated exactly the point I've been trying to make on this thread.

Its true, Catholics are not Christians according to Biblical standards. This was a fact among almost all Christians in America before liberalism reared its ugly head the 1960s.

Why should I, or anyone else believe, that you are the authority on what constitutes Christian morality? You don't even believe some of the churches I identified above are Christian---I'm sure the members of those churches would beg to differ.

Of course they would beg to differ -- but they're being decieved.

I'm not an authority on what constitutes Christian morality -- but God is. And he gave us His Word. His Word is very clear and can even be understood by children (provided that they haven't been decieved as well).

This truth was a bedrock of American Law and Custom for almost two centuries when it was viciously attacked by the secularism that you expouse.

Only secularists claim that America should be governed under the rules of men instead of the Wisdom of God. Only secularists would consider Catholics and Unitarians to be the same as Bible-believing Christians. Only secularists believe that morality can be determined by a majority-vote at the ballot box.

Secularists are one of the reasons our country is in the sorry shape it's in right now, and you only need to read this thread to see it.