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To: psychoknk
I would define a right as being anything that the government doesn't forbid you to do.

Whoa! I would define a right as our Founding Fathers understood it... prerogatives endowed in humanity by its Creator. Have you forgotten the Ninth Amendment?

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Rights, if they are truly rights, can't be taken away by government without grave injustice.

143 posted on 05/09/2007 9:23:04 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: pgyanke
I would define a right as our Founding Fathers understood it... prerogatives endowed in humanity by its Creator. Have you forgotten the Ninth Amendment?

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Rights, if they are truly rights, can't be taken away by government without grave injustice.

What is the litmus test for whether something is a right or not? If it can be taken away without grave injustice? Define grave injustice. What if the government forbids you to do something and it is only a minor injustice? What if something is legal in one country and illegal in another country, without any difference in repercussions between the two?

The Ninth Amendment is vary vague, and we see the government taking away many "rights" without any problem. Furthermore, other countries do not go by the US constitution. Does that mean that they don't have rights?

170 posted on 05/09/2007 10:58:22 AM PDT by psychoknk
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