[Fido969]

The architect, the carpenters, the electricians, the masons, the roofers, etc., can build a more complex structure (a 4 bedroom house) out of a pile of disorganized materials only because they consume hundreds of pounds of food.

Well, it's not just food - there is a certain amount of intelligence as well.

[Polybius]

The architect, the carpenters, the electricians, the masons, the roofers, etc., can build a more complex structure (a 4 bedroom house) out of a pile of disorganized materials only because they consume hundreds of pounds of food.

Well, it's not just food - there is a certain amount of intelligence as well.

Or, in the case of bees building a beehive, instinct.......Which God may very well have put into the bee.

My explanation was not for or against evolution or creation. My explanation was to counter the often stated claim that the Second Law of Thermodynamics violates the possibility of evolution without taking into account that the Planet Earth is not a closed (isolated) system.

"The entropy of an ISOLATED system not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium.”

"Isolated" is the operative word there.

Here, on this thread, we are producing ordered writing where, before, there was nothing. However, that is coming at an entropy increase (a net increase in disorder) when you consider how many steers, pigs, chickens and fish, and how much wheat, potato chips, (don't forget the beer) and vegetables that you and I have "disordered" into carbon dioxide, water and sewage during the past year. All that, in turn, came about because of the solar energy produced by the increasing entropy (increasing disorder) on the Sun that resulted from the consumption of tons of solar fuel.

In the debate of Evolution vs. Creationism, the "Thermodynamics Makes It Impossible To Have Something Go From Less Complex To More Complex on the Planet Earth" argument needs to be dropped as the argument against it rises in the East and sets in the West every day.