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To: Stultis

Of more interest to me than a fleeting and scant evidence of a supposed connection between very disimiscant liar species based on a few similiar jaw bone structures that are just as plausibly uniquely created for unique species is the transitions from invertebrates to vertebrates, something you seldom see mentioned for obvious reasons.

We find the liberal subjective views of soem scientists prominently put on display and pushed in the public, yet we very seldom see the opposing views of those in the secular sciences who raise doubts about findings such as the examples you showed.

It would be better for science, and more intellectually honest of them, to present fossil records like you pointed out and to say ‘we think this is how it happened’ rather than to suggest that it is clear ‘evidence that it did happen’ this way. however, it is often presented in the latter manner, especially in forums and on lay blogs, and presernted in such a way that anyone who daresd question it will be lebelled a heritick, or worse yet- gasp- a ‘religious nutbag’


181 posted on 05/10/2007 5:36:54 PM PDT by CottShop
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To: CottShop
We find the liberal subjective views of soem scientists prominently put on display and pushed in the public, yet we very seldom see the opposing views of those in the secular sciences who raise doubts about findings such as the examples you showed.

How do you know what scientists are saying?

The newspapers don't carry the full story, neither do the popular magazines. The technical details of science are not exciting enough for popular magazines, and would be beyond most readers' comprehension anyway.

To see what scientists are really doing you have to read journals such as those listed below.

Do you read any of those journals? Ever?

American Journal of Human Biology
American Journal of Human Genetics
American Journal of Physical Anthropology
The Anatomical Record Part A
Annals of Human Biology
Annals of Human Genetics
Annual Review of Genomics and Human Genetics
Anthropological Science
Anthropologie
L' Anthropologie
Archaeometry
Behavior Genetics
Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology
Biological Psychology
Biology and Philosophy
BMC Evolutionary Biology
Current Anthropology
Current Biology
Economics and Human Biology
Ethnic and Racial Studies
European Journal of Human Genetics
Evolution and Human Behavior
Evolutionary Anthropology
Forensic Science International
Gene
Genetical Research
Genetics
Genome Research
Heredity
Homo
Human Biology
Human Heredity
Human Genetics
Human Genomics
Human Molecular Genetics
Human Mutation
International Journal of Osteoarchaeology
Journal of Anthropological Archaeology
Journal of Archaeological Science
Journal of Biosocial Science
Journal of Ethnic and Migration Studies
Journal of Human Evolution
Journal of Human Genetics
Journal of Molecular Evolution
Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute
Molecular Biology and Evolution
Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution
Nature
Nature Genetics
Nature Reviews Genetics
PLoS Biology
PLoS Genetics
Proceedings of The Royal Society: Biological Sciences
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
Russian Journal of Genetics
Science
Trends in Genetics

182 posted on 05/10/2007 6:02:36 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: CottShop
We find the liberal subjective views of soem scientists prominently put on display and pushed in the public, yet we very seldom see the opposing views of those in the secular sciences who raise doubts about findings such as the examples you showed.

I would bet a very large sum that there is NOT A SINGLE qualified "secular" scientist who rejects the reptile to mammal transition wholesale. I'm not aware of any. This case if extremely compelling and rejected only, so far as I know, by antievolutionists, the vast majority of those religiously motivated.

203 posted on 05/11/2007 6:19:09 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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