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Amazing cognitive dissonance. They purposely chose to implant these two boys, and then felt no guilt while stopping their hearts.
1 posted on 05/08/2007 11:20:26 AM PDT by Scotswife
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What a sicko. Try it like this. What if a madman was holding his family hostage, claiming that he would kill all of his 4 children and possibly the mother if he didn’t kill 2 of them himself. This is like him being PROUD of killing 2 of the kids himself and handing the madman the corpses to forestall any harm to the rest of his family. That’s nothing to be proud of.


159 posted on 05/08/2007 1:19:59 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Wow! Now that is some dark stuff!

Prayers for the little boys that he killed.


160 posted on 05/08/2007 1:20:16 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Coffee, the finest organic suspension ever devised." -- Star Trek: Voyager)
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We don't feel guilty. We don't feel ashamed. We're not even really sad, because terminating these fetuses — at 15 weeks' gestation — was a medical imperative.

Wow. And wow. That pretty much says it all about the consciences of two utterly selfish people. Why didn't they chose adoption? And why use a situation having hardly anything to do with partial-birth abortion to make an argument for it? Why do people like this say they want children, when it's so obvious they don't place value on the lives of children. Having kids for them is purely selfish.

198 posted on 05/08/2007 1:59:39 PM PDT by floozy22
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Wow. He used his name and everything

I hope his daughters don’t read this column someday.


205 posted on 05/08/2007 2:07:03 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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I'm so glad you're proud. I'm also glad that someday you and your wife are going to feel the sting of this most selfish of all decisions. You're going to feel it just like your sons felt the sting of those hypodermic needles. Read my namesake, Psalm 8, then contrast yourself with our loving Creator. Fare well proud boy!
218 posted on 05/08/2007 2:43:32 PM PDT by Psalm 8
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Talk about a mixed-up personality. He has not concept of how stupid he sounds. He actually thinks he is being reasonable here. In the first place, just because boys are more likly to have autism, is that a reason to destroy these little boys? Also, he reacts to the possibility of having a child with handicaps as though it is an unthinkable idea. Who made him God, anyway?

Basically the article is all about me, me, me, or more about us, us, us and not about the entire family. Parents who decide to have children ought to do so out of love and a willingness to give unconditionaly love, not just to obtain trophy babies.

By-the-way, this type of situation is only one of the many reasons why the Catholic Church is against in-vitro fertilization. It’s a heart-wrenching thing to not be able to conceive to be sure, but then situations like this arise quite often. None of it is natural. It’s all very sad.


219 posted on 05/08/2007 2:48:20 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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THE SMELL OF MANURE IS IN THE AIR!

I am convinced that this is a made-up story. Given the source (L.A. Times), the subject matter, and the conveniently "black and white" scenario that was painted... it's bound to be another Leftist Lie.

223 posted on 05/08/2007 3:07:10 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Radicaleftists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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May they both burn in hell.


235 posted on 05/08/2007 3:42:36 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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Nothing but liberal idiological trash, “oh we did’nt do anything wrong, which is to say we did everything right” I hope on judgement day they get to meet the little boy they selfishly deprived of life and in thier next life they can experience the joy of someone stopping thier heart and depriving them of life. These idiots are nothing but MURDERERS!


240 posted on 05/08/2007 4:03:00 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

253 posted on 05/08/2007 5:57:35 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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Read this in the AM and it made me sick. After watching last night TV and a family of 14 and going to have more.

All we can do is pray for them.

Has anyone ever seen an article that played up the husband and wife and their decision to have the baby no matter what?

I can just see the writer drooling as the story was being written.


257 posted on 05/08/2007 6:54:41 PM PDT by franky1
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“And yet there I was, holding her hand, watching the ultrasound as a needle with potassium chloride found its mark, stopping the heart of one male fetus, then the other, hidden in my wife’s suffering belly....”

The evil Nazi bastards....


258 posted on 05/08/2007 6:57:02 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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What a difference a family makes!!!!
The MacCaughey gang of seven. Precious Family with integrity!!
Wonder which one they would have murdered!! NOT!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/US/9811/18/septuplets.01/

They are now seven years old!! All Seven of them!!!


260 posted on 05/08/2007 7:03:21 PM PDT by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: Scotswife; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...

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261 posted on 05/08/2007 7:14:19 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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Sorry, I don't have time to read all the posts. This sounds like a new spin on the same old argument! They knew going in. Christian couple who are concerned about this don't have more than one or two implanted, and have the rest saved...then they are called "snowflake babies" and given for adoption to parents who can't want babies and can't for other reasons, have thier own. This will hit them, down the road.

Greater than this is the findings that they will have 2 children who will grow up knowing there were 2 others that were aborted...they won't even have to be told. It has been found that psychologically, children know their birth order, and know instinctively there were other siblings that are not alive, whether miscarried, stillborn, or aborted.

Interesting that the Amnio is brought up...that is invasive and a risk to the baby and mother as well, which the medical field doesn't want to bring up, either...

Their grieving time will come, some day, when they least expect it. They will battle with the grief, the shame, the guilt. Everyone who aborts does. Their family will too.

I am wondering if we are to consider him noble for choosing his wife and 2 out of 4 kids, when they knew this going in!! I have a 21 yr old daughter who has ever social and pro-choice reason given as viable reasons for her to choose to abort....heart condition, blood condition, double womb, single parent, won't survive normal birth so has to have a c-section, now in financial issues because of bedrest to keep the one and only baby she will carry... She chose LIFE! Against all odds, she is choosing LIFE! Somehow, I find the author of the article lacking, when measured up against my 21 yr old!

264 posted on 05/08/2007 8:44:20 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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And yet there I was, holding her hand, watching the ultrasound as a needle with potassium chloride found its mark, stopping the heart of one male fetus, then the other

Words fail.

And to think that monsters like this are walking around in our midst.

272 posted on 05/09/2007 5:48:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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My first thought: Who is going to clip this article and show it to one (or both) of his precious daughters when they are old enough to understand.

My second thought: I can just picture this scum saying, “Vivian, I loved you and Rosalind so much that I killed your two brothers while they were in the womb.” I then imagine the neurosis that Vivian develops when she realizes that she better stay on Daddy’s good side or he may kill her because he loves Rosalind so much.

IVF is an abomination. This is a classic example of why that is the case.


276 posted on 05/09/2007 6:58:57 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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OMG. I want to vomit. This is too disgusting for words honestly. Burning in hell for all eternity is too good for these idiots; perhaps a shot to stop their hearts would be a good start, though.


285 posted on 05/11/2007 6:53:33 PM PDT by Capagrl (Never argue with stupid people; they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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"...they were forced to make the Choice."

Um..NO they weren't.

286 posted on 05/11/2007 8:52:05 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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