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Giuliani the insincere
Townhall ^ | May 8, 2007 | By Rich Lowry

Posted on 05/07/2007 9:59:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Rudy Giuliani is supposed to be the candidate of authenticity, the tough-talking former New York City mayor who sticks to his beliefs no matter what. But he is repeating a line that is so flagrantly insincere, it makes any of Hillary Clinton's canned talking points seem free and natural by comparison.

Giuliani claims he "hates abortion." Oddly, this hatred didn't manifest itself until Giuliani realized he had to have something to say to pro-lifers besides that he supported abortion on demand in any circumstance.

Giuliani has been pounded by pundits for his answers on abortion at the first GOP debate. But he didn't commit a gaffe. He only suffered from the contradictions of a position that appears to be the product of poorly thought-out political calculation.

The Giuliani camp figured he couldn't abandon his pro-choice position when running for president. His political appeal is based on his strength, so he can't be seen as wavering on so fundamental an issue. Besides, he already had changed his position once before -- when first running for New York City mayor in 1989 -- from pro-life to pro-choice.

A funny thing happened, however, to Giuliani's strength of conviction on the way to the Republican primaries. He has moved right on the Second Amendment, on civil unions for gays and on partial-birth abortion. It seems that he is willing to bend on everything, except that which is most important to social conservatives -- the right to abortion itself.

Instead, he has crafted an exquisite muddle. He reaches out to anti-abortion Republicans by saying that he would appoint "strict constructionist" judges, widely construed as code for judges who would oppose Roe v. Wade. At the same time, Giuliani casts doubt on his own constitutional judgment by refusing to say that Roe is wrongly decided. Even liberal legal eminences like Lawrence Tribe and Cass Sunstein say Roe is constitutionally dubious, but Giuliani, the strict constructionist, won't go there.

He likes to say that the constitutionality of Roe is up to judges to decide. This is a transparent dodge. It also plays into one of the profoundest defects of our political culture, which is overly deferential office-holders allowing judges to occupy an outsized place in our public life.

Giuliani should abhor Roe since it tramples the constitutional virtue that he has been trumpeting lately, federalism. He explains his new tune on gun control by saying it should be up to states to decide their gun laws. But Roe prevents states from passing any meaningful restrictions on abortion.

Giuliani apparently thinks that saying he hates abortion is enough. But pro-lifers will want to know why he hates abortion. Because it's taken the lives of 48 million unborn babies since Roe? Giuliani's "hate" line rings so false because temperamentally he is not one to hate something without outlawing or attempting to discourage it.

So far what Rudy has most effectively communicated is his distaste for people who actually hate abortion. He says pro-lifers want to throw women in jail, the canard that pro-choicers always throw at them, and he has implied that pro-lifers hurt the GOP.

Giuliani can upgrade his position by pronouncing Roe a constitutional monstrosity. Is opposing Roe and being pro-choice too confusing? Giuliani can give everyone a basic lesson in self-government -- you can hold a position without insisting that the Supreme Court mandate it. He should vow to veto any expanded funding of abortion. And in keeping with his (supposed) hatred of abortion, he should make it clear that he values the work of anti-abortion activists and understands why they would vote to prohibit abortion in a post-Roe world, even if he would vote the other way.

This would make Giuliani as acceptable as a pro-choicer is going to get to social conservatives. His position would still be a contrivance, but at least it would be a coherent and shrewd one. The alternative might be watching his campaign founder on an issue about which he cares very little.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; prolife; rudyonabortion
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To: NapkinUser
I think that he has stopped himself amongst all knowledgeable people.
121 posted on 05/09/2007 10:20:10 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Deb

Rudy is a liberal, through and through.
He has no business running in the GOP.


122 posted on 05/09/2007 10:26:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Deb

What’s with the Free Mojo business on your home page? Why would anyone defend that scumbag?


123 posted on 05/09/2007 10:28:25 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Deb; Spiff
I don't know anything about the Clown Posse or the most recent unpleasantness.

If he's a "beloved friend" of yours, I'm sure you keep up with that gay blog of his. Did you catch the entry where he slandered JimRob last week?

124 posted on 05/09/2007 10:37:11 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Deb
“I’m a California, Duncan Hunter girl, but I think Rudy is getting a bad rap. I know there are lots of former lefties (like Dennis Miller) who became conservatives because of Rudy and what he was up against.”

Dennis Miller is no conservative!

He’s still a liberal gun grabbing leftist he just wants to fight the WOT.

He is about as much a conservative as Rooty or Liberman.Which is Not at all!

125 posted on 05/09/2007 10:38:18 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: jmc813

What blog is that?


126 posted on 05/09/2007 10:38:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Giuliani apparently thinks that saying he hates abortion is enough. But pro-lifers will want to know why he hates abortion.

Nonsense, we know why Rudy hates "abortion": To him, it's an issue that is likely fatal to his ambitions, a millstone hanging around his neck. It makes him cower before people he despises.

So, Rudy hates "abortion."

127 posted on 05/09/2007 10:40:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Deb

“Before becoming mayor he was above all else a law-enforcer. He enforced the law. He prosecuted the New York mafia and corruption.”

Rooty is up to his neck in corruption, and with Kerik, the mafia.


128 posted on 05/09/2007 10:46:07 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: NapkinUser

I tried last night and mousey wouldn’t play withe me :( (lol)


129 posted on 05/09/2007 10:47:45 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Deb; Spiff

“radical liberal”

“radical” - I’m presuming the applicable definition here would be “favoring or resulting in extreme or revolutionary changes, as in political organization”, which with Giuliani embracing ideals antithetical to published GOP party stance and his considering himself “mainstream GOP”, it seems “radical” would be the correct word to employ.

“liberal” - I’m also presuming the definition as applicable here would be “holding, expressing, or following political views or policies that support civil liberties, democratic reforms, and the use of government power to promote social progress” with an emphasis upon the latter portion of that clause, which Giuliani has both demonstrated and opined is the duty of government and the duty of citizens to that government. In light of that definition and Giuliani’s stated position, it’s entirely fitting “liberal” would be associated with Giuliani.

So, in the strictest of definitions, Giuliani can safely be labeled a “radical liberal”.

Good choice, Spiff.


130 posted on 05/09/2007 10:57:00 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Deb

It seems like you disappeared after my post # 110 last night. Enlighten me oh wise one. I’m still waiting for an answer. I can’t help you free someone if you don’t help me. Just turn around fall backwards, I’ll catch you...


131 posted on 05/09/2007 10:57:44 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Deb

The SC judges he most admires are Scalia and Thomas.
***Here, let me just quote JimRob from upthread in my response to your nonsense.

To: Deb
B/S and more B/S.

22 posted on 05/07/2007 10:40:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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132 posted on 05/09/2007 4:43:46 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: dirtboy

I’ll ask him about it lunch Friday and let you know what he says.


133 posted on 05/09/2007 7:47:41 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Liberal states give birth to liberal Republicans. It will always be that way. He didn't have to run for Mayor as a Republican if he didn't think he was one.

These Rudy haters are gettin' reved up about 6 months early.

134 posted on 05/09/2007 7:57:36 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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