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To: webboy45

The Nicene Creed is fundamental to Christian belief.


93 posted on 05/07/2007 2:12:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin; webboy45
The Nicene Creed is fundamental to Christian belief.

ROFL! What about all those poor souls pre-Nicene council? Are they all doomed to cook? What about those of us who no longer bend our knee to Rome? Are we cooked, too?

Really, that's a good one. A creed that none of the Bible authors ever dreamed of is "fundamental" to the faith they laid the foundation of! Man, what a hoot..

96 posted on 05/07/2007 3:00:29 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: BenLurkin

“The Nicene Creed is fundamental to Christian belief.”

I’d like you to quote the Nicene creed for me and tell me where in it contradicts with Mormon belief. In fact, quote the Latin, which is probably the more accurate. I think you will find the Mormon belief in the Trinity does not contradict that of the Nicene creed.

The definition of “one-in-three, three-in-one”, and “person(s)” has been a long-standing debate in Christian history. The belief of the Mormons in the Godhead is not unique, in fact, many Greek Orthodox Catholics may feel comfortable with some of the Mormon teachings of the Godhead. A traditional Trinitarian, when reading only the Book of Mormon, would probably feel very comfortable in its teachings as well.

The ground that Mormons have however is that of what they believe to be a Prophet of God, argue as you may, who which claimed to see God the Father, and Christ the Son as two *separate* personages. The two, while one in purpose and unity, are not “mysterious” to the Mormons. They have the word of a Prophet in this time and dispensation to rely on, not the ancient compiled writings of the creeds of men. The fact is, they don’t need the Nicene Creed, whether accurate or not, to tell them who the Godhead is.

Is this Christian? Well, was Moses Christian? Was Peter Christian? Were their followers Christian? It all comes down to a belief in whether Joseph Smith was a true Prophet of God or not. True, False Prophets come as “Wolves in Sheeps’ Clothing” - Mormons believe this too. I believe if you read it further it says you will “know them by their fruits”. I urge all to look at the fruits of the Mormon Church - that is how you will know us and whether we are Christian.

BTW, what does any of this have to do with Romney’s candidacy? He’s a good man, with good values. I don’t see anyone quoting the religion of McCain, or Guliani, nor do I see anyone even questioning their values. Mormons keep getting criticized for playing the “persecution” card. Well, I don’t think we can debate otherwise until we see others start criticizing the Baptists, or the Presbetyrians, or the Catholics, or the Methodists - they all have different interpretations of the Bible. Why aren’t we criticizing the other candidates for their interpretations of the Bible? Heck, I don’t even know what religions the other candidates belong to - do you?


104 posted on 05/07/2007 3:56:50 PM PDT by jstayii (http://www.jessestay.com)
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