Posted on 05/07/2007 11:36:09 AM PDT by bedolido
Interesting. The earthly headquarters of my Lord and Savior is Jerusalem, not Nicea.
We worship Jesus Christ in our temples, we don't worship the temples themselves. And we worship Jesus Christ, the son of God.
But a Christian college with a Mormon commencement speaker? I don’t think so.
>But Mormons are NOT christians. Anyone who believes that Jesus is a spirit brother of Satan (yes they do believe this) and that Mormons will all be gods like Christ is (yes, they believe this too) is not christian<
Plus the Bible is not to be taken from or added to, thus the book of Mormon is not Christian. Only Satan lures with the promise of becoming gods and being worshipped as Christ is worshipped. The Mormon God is not the Christian God.
Of course they are, you don’t have a true concept of the true nature of Christ that’s all.
Exactly. That's why Mormons are not christian. Jesus nowhere taught that men could be gods. Never.
Not that there are contradictions, but surely you realize that many thought that Christ’s teachings contradicted the word of God accepted of the day. What’s cool about mormons is that they believe that one doesn’t have to rely upon the words of “wise men”. They really believe that God can & does speak to man as put forth in the scriptures. Even to us as individuals. Remember what prompted Joseph Smith to ask in prayer which of the churches was the right one? James 1:5. It’s a great scripture, you should read it.
This is nonsense. The angels are certainly not Christ's brothers since they are part of creation; if you look in Colossians you will see that Christ is the creator, thus Christ is FAR superior...not simply a brother of the angels.
Same with people. They were also created. Christ was not.
So which Nicene Creed is the ‘right’ one? The one that was issued in 325 AD or the one that was issued in 381 AD?
Awake! Awake! Put on your strength, Zion; put on your beautiful robes, O Jerusalem, the holy city. For never again shall come to you uncircumcised and unclean ones. (Isaiah 52:1)
Then the Devil took Him up into the holy city and set Him upon a pinnacle of the Temple. (Matthew 4:5)
and coming out of the tomb after His resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. (Matthew 27:53)
And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her Husband. (Revelation of John 21:2)
And if anyone takes away from the words of the Book of this prophecy, God will take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book. (Revelation of John 22:19)
Taken from or added to? Typical. You do realize that the bible didn’t come to being as a book until centuries after Christ. All the books in the bible were in the form of individual books or “scrolls” & were not compiled into one book until centuries later. The same scripture that you refer to in Revelations is also found in Deuteronomy. By your acct., that would mean anything written after Deuteronomy was not the word of God. For that matter, chronologically speaking, Revelations was not the last book written even though it appears as the last book. Does that mean that those books written after Revelations are not the word either? Or could John have been speaking about just the book of Revelations?
John 14:28 ~~ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.John 5:22&23 ~~ 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.John 7: 16 & 17 ~~ 16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.John 15:21-26 ~~ 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.
22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:John 6:37-40 ~~37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.When Stephen was stoned in Acts, it says that he saw Jesus Christ standing on the right hand of God:
Acts 7:55&56 ~~55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.Matthew 3:16&17 ~~16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it...."It also says in the book of Revelation in the New Testament:
Revelation 22:18&19 ~~ "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:John was referring to the Book of Revelation. How could he be referring to all the books in the Bible when the Bible didn't exist at the time he wrote the Book of Revelation? Also, some of the books in the New Testament were written after the Book of Revelation (John and probably Timothy) and the books in the Old and New Testament would not be recognized as canonized scripture for many decades."And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
I have to go, but I will continue tomorrow. BTW, you didn’t address my Biblical quotations. Each scripture quoted showed that God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are separate personages.
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