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To: JohnnyZ
Mitt was pro-abortion right through 2004 when he decided to run for president.

Are you saying that Romney said he was going to run for President 3 years ago? I don't think so. Do you read minds?

If Romney has finally come to the pro-life side and if his record since his conversion demonstrates that, then GREAT! We want more people to realize that life should be protected. I will have to examine his record closer, but if he started his term in 2003 and he became pro-life in 2004, then it would show that he was pro-life through the MAJORITY of his term.

If we discarded every candidate who ever made the mistake of voting for or signing into law anything that was pro-abortion in nature, and we did not allow for a conversion to becoming pro-life, then we would have never elected Ronald Reagan. He signed the 1967 Therapeutic Abortion Bill as Governor of California. Shortly thereafter, he realized his mistake and became pro-life. His pro-life record after that is probably unsurpassed by any politician. I want to look at Romney's record more and hear more of what he has to say on this subject. His conversion may be genuine. He's certainly not out there right now, as Giuliani is, stating that abortion is a constitutional right and that taxpayers should continue to fund abortions. And he certainly doesn't have the egregiously pro-abortion record that Giuliani had as Mayor of NYC.

99 posted on 05/08/2007 6:49:37 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Are you saying that Romney said he was going to run for President 3 years ago? I don't think so.

Yes.

Why disagree without looking it up? Don't be so lazy.

Romney started up the presidential whispers after being elected governor. Around the time of the 2004 election (just after, I think), Mitt decided to forego a reelection bid in favor of running for president (no official announcement, of course), and started visiting early primary states, calling himself pro-life, and seeking (more) headlines designed to appeal to conservatives. The "Mitt being pro-life" thing only STARTED to come out when he was going to South Carolina, an early primary state and calling himself pro-life, while still be pro-choice in Massachusetts. He had a few months period of waffling, saying his position had not changed, that he was just "personally pro-life", and supported legal abortion, then said he was "in a different place" on abortion, and wouldn't say where that place was, and now claims to be pro-life, though he's still not in favor of making abortion illegal, apparently. Again, that was all AFTER he was starting his pre-campaign for president in South Carolina.

Mitt was testing the presidential waters at LEAST as early as fall 2004, when he spoke at the GOP Convention.

So really, Spiff, get the facts.

100 posted on 05/08/2007 7:12:51 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Spiff
If you go back and look at the timeline, Mitt's abortion stance tracks almost exactly with his presidential campaign.

Running for Governor of Massachusetts? Pro-legal abortion.

Deciding whether to run for reelection or run for president? Equivocating, talking pro-life but saying his position hadn't changed, leaving wiggle room to go either way.

Deciding not to run for reelection (and run for prez instead)? Supposedly pro-life, complete with a conversion story of dubious nature.

And THAT is why no one with a brain would believe him now. He's fooled plenty of people in his political career, and anyone who doesn't look back and see the phony in action is being wilfully ignorant.

101 posted on 05/08/2007 7:22:05 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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