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Housing Slump Slams Speculators
insidebayarea.com ^ | 6/6/2007 | Ryan Nakashima

Posted on 05/06/2007 9:19:58 AM PDT by ex-Texan

Buyers looking for quick turnover, fast profit losing gamble in Nevada

LAS VEGAS — In the rampant real estate speculation of the Las Vegas valley three years ago, people lined up outside Pulte Homes sales offices overnight as if they were waiting for the release of the latest video game console or hot new movie.

Having seen his house in an upscale part of suburban Henderson, Nev., jump $200,000 in value in 18 months, Sam Schwartz felt he couldn't miss any part of the boom.

He spent the night in the parking lot with TV, snacks and drinks, along with about a hundred other people.

Schwartz intended to buy a new home and then quickly sell it within the year — for a huge profit. Most people waiting were flippers just like him, he said.

"We had seen real evidence of what was possible in this crazy, inflated market, and we just wanted to get a piece of that investment equity," Schwartz said.

But when home prices unexpectedly took a backward step, many investors seeking to cash in quickly were left "upside-down," or owing more on their mortgages than what their homes were worth.

The result was a glut of homes in the marketplace, communities spotted with empty houses and for sale signs — and a foreclosure rate in Nevada that leads the nation as owners unable to sell became saddled with unbearable debt payments.

Foreclosure filings across the United States rose 47 percent in March from a year ago to 149,150 — 1 for every 775 households, according to statistics from RealtyTrac Inc., a foreclosure listing service. And for the third straight month, Nevada's foreclosure rate led the nation when it rose 220 percent from a year earlier to 4,738 filings, or 1 in every 183 households.

In Clark County, which encompasses Las Vegas, 1 of every 30 homes began the process toward foreclosure last year.

The day Schwartz reserved his home, the sales staff was raising prices $20,000 after every fifth buyer came inside. The $500,000 house he and his wife were eyeing had shot up to $540,000 by the time they sat down. Somehow, it still seemed like a good deal.

"Everybody was thinking, 'Hey it's not the end of the world, because the homes across town are selling for $720,000. We have almost $200,000 in equity in the house and it isn't even built yet,'" Schwartz said.

He and his wife put down $5,000 on a home that would end up costing $560,000 with upgrades.

While the Schwartzes were able to cancel before closing on a property that suddenly was worth only $490,000 — and recoup their deposit on a legal technicality — others were less fortunate.

Schwartz, a 44-year-old life coach, said he "narrowly escaped financial disaster." But the effects of the housing crunch would reverberate for years, he said, something he expects to see among the clients he coaches to succeed in their lives and careers.

"There's going to be a lot of depression, a lot of anger. A lot drinking, gambling and desperate stuff going on."

More than other states hit by the mortgage lending crunch, the high foreclosure rate in Nevada, California and Florida was driven by speculation, said Rick Sharga, vice president of marketing for RealtyTrac.

"It was a combustible mix of risky loans and risky real estate deals," he said.

Russ Valone, the chief executive of research firm MarketPointe Realty Advisors, said speculators in San Diego were putting deposits on downtown condo units under construction, assuming they could sell them at a profit when they were finished.

"There were guys out there that were rolling the dice just as if they were going to Las Vegas," Valone said.

When the market slowed, many buyers forfeited their deposits, or let their properties get repossessed by the banks. As a result, the inventory of unoccupied condo units downtown since early 2005 has soared fivefold, he said.

New home builders are slowing down the pace of new projects in Las Vegas and are giving agents commissions of up to 12 percent and up to $100,000 in upgrades such as pools, granite countertops and appliances.

"The speculators completely dried up," said Paul Murad, a real estate observer and author of "Manhattanizing Las Vegas."

In Miami, the rush of condo building and speculative buying has slowed to a crawl, said real estate agent Penni Hurley. Florida's foreclosure filings rose 54 percent from a year ago to

14,303 in March, or 1 filing for every 511 households.

"The market was on steroids, and now it's going through a much-needed correction," Hurley said.

With forecasts of a nationwide 1 percent home price decline this year, there's no way to flip for a profit now, said Jay Brinkmann, vice president of research and economics with the Mortgage Bankers Association.

"One would have to logically assume that (flippers) are no longer in the market," he said.

But some are still feeling the pain.

Jason Beaver, a Sunnyvale-based Apple Inc. programmer, got caught up in the talk of the hot housing market from friends who bought multiple homes in Las Vegas and made a killing.

His name was drawn in a buyers' lottery in the Solera subdivision and he put $35,300 down on a $353,000 home in February 2004. The community is restricted to people age 55 or older; the 37-year-old Beaver had no intention of moving in.

That summer, the housing market began to soften. He nervously put the house on the market for a break-even price the same day escrow closed. He got no offers.

A tight market had suddenly become flush with resale homes as investors sought to cash out. Pulte was one of several builders to slash new home prices, in some cases by as much as $80,000 in a single day. Beaver and others are suing, but the company has said it was simply reacting to new conditions in an overheated market.

Beaver has been renting the home out for about a $1,000 a month, despite monthly expenses around $2,000.

And the supply of available homes is growing.

In March, the number of resale listings for single family homes, condos and townhouses in the Las Vegas valley grew 30 percent from a year ago to

27,282, according to the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors. Sales and the value of homes sold were both down 38 percent from a year ago. About half the homes available have been on the market for more than two months.

"Two years ago, you'd set a price that looked right and you'd get offers that were

$20,000, $30,000, $40,000 over your list price. You have to be more realistic today," said Devin Reiss, president of the Realtors association.

With Nevada's fast-growing population and an estimated

8,000 net new residents coming to Las Vegas every month, experts predict the glut of housing will be cleared in six months to more than a year.

State lawmakers are considering a range of bills that clamp down on the easy mortgage lending that helped heat up the market, including making it a crime for lenders to issue mortgages with little or no verification of a borrower's ability to pay.

"The biggest loan I ever saw, a person bought a $1 million property and only had to come up with $1,000 in cash," said Scott Bice, the state's commissioner of mortgage lending.

"I don't think anything will ever prevent speculation," he said, but added that new regulations and tighter credit requirements by lenders will eventually return the market to the good old days: "When it takes good credit and money in a transaction to close it."

For those caught up in the frenzy of a few years ago, the changes come too little, too late.

Beaver figures he has spent $50,000 on his investment home, and will have to come up with $30,000 more to pay off the mortgage after he sells it at a loss.

While he's not completely sworn off real estate investing, Beaver said next time he'll try a more traditional approach — to buy and hold for the long term.

"The fast-growth, make-a-quick-buck real estate investment, I don't think I'll try again," he said.


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"Everybody was thinking, 'Hey it's not the end of the world, because the homes across town are selling for $720,000. We have almost $200,000 in equity in the house and it isn't even built yet,'" Schwartz said.

"The fast-growth, make-a-quick-buck real estate investment, I don't think I'll try again," * * *

And this featured report is about a life coach. I must assume these people in Los Vegas are into living the 'good life' as fully as possible. Lots of drinks around the backyard pool and cooking up grilled steaks. "Have another round on me," they say to each other. Yeah, OK.

I saw an outline for a movie plot posted on the web. It is pretty funny in a weird sort of way:

Mr. Flipper bought in a hot real estate market. Say, San Antonia or Los Vegas. The film starts out with the hero driving to work in a shiny new SUV.

Flipper was talked into buying an abandoned house by a pretty female realtor. House is full of busted up trash, cats, dog feces, roaches and other bugs. The original owner was fined after someone complained about the stench. The pool was full of dead frogs, plumbing was broken and had to be redone, walls, appliances, flooring and roof were shot, etc. It was over priced by $ 150k. Mr. Flipper spends another $ 50k fixing up the house and is forced to sell his new SUV. But he is obliged to dump the house in a short sale after it languishes on the market. He loses only $ 125k on the deal. But the short sale loss is becomes a federal income tax liability. Go figure.

At the end of the film, the home was sold to another realtor lady with inside information who has little girl. The little girl grows up totally psychotic, becomes a serial killer and loves to murder house novice flippers . . .

OK. The idea is not that funny. But it sounds a lot like reality today.

1 posted on 05/06/2007 9:20:02 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: M. Espinola; Hydroshock; Calpernia; Pelham; RobRoy; stephenjohnbanker

*Ping* !


2 posted on 05/06/2007 9:23:26 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan
Buyers looking for quick turnover, fast profit losing gamble in Nevada...

So what else is new?

3 posted on 05/06/2007 9:24:17 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ex-Texan
He loses only $ 125k on the deal. But the short sale loss is becomes a federal income tax liability. Go figure.

How many times are you going to post about this without understanding it?

If he loses money out of his pocket, he can't write off the loss and there is no tax liability. If he can't make up the loss of $125k and the bank "forgives" it, he is liable for taxes on the $125k. Which would you prefer, owing $125k or owing 25% of $125k?

4 posted on 05/06/2007 9:29:30 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: ex-Texan

“The market was on steroids, and now it’s going through a much-needed correction,” Hurley said.

“One would have to logically assume that (flippers) are no longer in the market,” he said.

No kidding, I thought that markets only move upward at a constant rate.....

Markets correct themselves, now the real “game” will be buying cheaply enough to rent out at a profit. The housing “glut” is a tow edged sword, the buyers lost their shirts, as did the banks, renters however are about get some great deals!


5 posted on 05/06/2007 9:35:04 AM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Which would you prefer, owing $125k or owing 25% of $125k?

It's not as simple a call as you make it out to be. Owing some bank $125K or the IRS $31K, have very different ramifications.

6 posted on 05/06/2007 9:46:09 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Owing some bank $125K or the IRS $31K, have very different ramifications

Yes. The biggest one is owing 75% less.

7 posted on 05/06/2007 9:47:58 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: ex-Texan
Schwartz, a 44-year-old life coach, said he "narrowly escaped financial disaster."

Guess he needs to go back to school.

8 posted on 05/06/2007 9:48:46 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Man made global warming is a man made LIE!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
How many times are you going to post about this without understanding it?

Just one of many things he posts and does not understand. ex-Texan was claiming for a long time all these banks get rich off of foreclosing.

9 posted on 05/06/2007 9:49:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Toddsterpatriot
No. It is You, who do not understand:

The worst-case scenarios are when folks borrowed heavily to buy in at the top or took out big home-equity loans while prices were inflating — two situations that can result in having the mortgage debt exceed the current value of the home. And if homeowners in these situations have to sell, not only will they owe money to the bank, but there could be some unexpected income tax consequences to boot.

A home sale where the mortgage debt exceeds the net sale price (after subtracting out commissions and other transaction costs) is often called a short sale by real estate types. If you find yourself in this situation, here's what you need to know about the federal income tax implications of short sales.

Source

10 posted on 05/06/2007 9:51:50 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

Not a word of truth to this article. According to the MSM no flippers or speculators have been hurt by the housing slowdown. NONE.

ALL, the people hurt were poor, hard working, mostly minorities who were taken advantage of by the man.


11 posted on 05/06/2007 9:52:01 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Running On Empty

marking


12 posted on 05/06/2007 9:53:49 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: ex-Texan

I can’t believe you are still schelping your garbage... No body should buy gold... And real estate is still strong.


13 posted on 05/06/2007 9:54:06 AM PDT by Porterville (God is love and Dog is evol)
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And if homeowners in these situations have to sell, not only will they owe money to the bank, but there could be some unexpected income tax consequences to boot.

Wrong. One or the other, not both. Either they owe the shortfall to the bank, no taxes owed or the bank "gives" them the shortfall and they owe taxes on the "gift".

14 posted on 05/06/2007 9:56:14 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: ex-Texan

Did you actually read the article you linked to? It does not say what you claim.


15 posted on 05/06/2007 9:58:07 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Wrong. One or the other, not both. Either they owe the shortfall to the bank, no taxes owed or the bank "gives" them the shortfall and they owe taxes on the "gift".

Coorect. And there is even a bill in Congress that is trying to eliminate that tax.

16 posted on 05/06/2007 10:01:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: ex-Texan

“Schwartz, a 44-year-old life coach”

OK. I admit it. I don’t get out much.

But would someone please tell me what in the world a “life coach” is?

Is this a career I should consider after my engineering job is outsourced to India?


17 posted on 05/06/2007 10:01:55 AM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: ex-Texan

Another article that doesn’t explain that filing a foreclosure is not the same as completing foreclosure. Most foreclosures are resolved before the bank repossesses. Also there is no comparison between the foreclosure rate and historical rates.


18 posted on 05/06/2007 10:12:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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I also hope this teaches a lesson to people who think speculation is easy money. It’s very high risk.


19 posted on 05/06/2007 10:13:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: ex-Texan

Loss Vegas : )


20 posted on 05/06/2007 10:17:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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