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FBI INTERVIEWS (1992)
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/5439/Documents.html

FBI 180-10112-10154 BASS INTERVIEW: Three men [Hunt/Sturgis/Carswell] ran down and got into a grain car. ... [Officer Ray]
Vaughn climbed up the ladder on one of the cars and saw three men huddled in corner of the freight [grain] car. ... Vaughn
ordered the men out and they cussed at him. Vaughn then jacked a shell into his shotgun and ordered them out. H/S/C had no
money when arrested. Everyone in the LaFontains’ book refers to Doyle as being kind, gentle, quaint, sweet natured, i.e., would
not curse the cops. The hobos had money because Doyle was getting a check (see below).

FBI 124-10179-10312 CHAMBERS INTERVIEW: Capt. Jones assigned Chambers to watch three hobos [H/S/C] he described as
“dirty.” Jones asked Chambers to take them into his office to “find out which one shot the President.” Since they were all
together, he chose to only elicit general information. Their answers were confusing and not consistent. Their stories as to where
they were and where they were headed differed. Grinell came into the office and discussed the possibility of conducting a
gunpowder test on the hands of the hobos. Later, Jones advised Chambers thay arrested the individual who shot officer Tippit
and that he was the one who had also shot the President. Chambers then advised the three individuals, “you’re free to go.”

FBI 124-10151-10221 DOYLE INTERVIEW: Arrived from Houston (took one day to get from Houston to Dallas) on 11/22/63. Went
to Irving Street Mission, showered, cleaned up and received noon meal. After leaving Mission, someone told them JFK was shot.
They asked railroad employees if this was true, they said yes. Got into a gondola (coal car) and were headed to Fort Worth when
train stopped and they were arrested.

FBI 124-10273-10380 is basically the same interview but adds this conflicting information: after getting out of jail they went back
to Houston and then split up.

FBI 10151-10214 GEDNEY INTERVIEW: Says arrived Nov. 21, spent night at Salvation Army, had breakfast and lunch there on
Nov 22 and after hearing of the shooting, went to railroad yard where they got on a flatbed car with large sheets of steel and
were arrested by swarms of cops. After getting out of jail they traveled to Fort Worth, Arizona and Los Angeles and then split up.

FBI #10151-10224: Downing, a Dallas cop, said: Doyle told him they were in railroad yard waiting to catch out, heard sirens and
did not know Kennedy was shot until the Dallas police took him in for questioning.

FBI 124-10151-10224 GEDNEY INTERVIEW: Gedney said he and Doyle went all over the southwest and worked in labor camps
and slept in hobo camps. In November they ended up in Houston. Doyle was getting unemployment checks from California.
After getting a check, they went to Dallas. Arrived Nov. 21, went to Salvation Army, spent night, went to catch freight going north.
(Fort Worth is west of Dallas.) [H/S/C had no money.]

FBI 10273-10381: Gedney said he did not remember any of the arresting officers having any rifles or shotguns. Said they were
clean, had socks and did not appear dirty. [How could you not remember cops “jacking a shotgun shell”?]
SUMMARY OF FBI INTERVIEWS: If you read all the reports (even the ones I didn’t cite, above) and what the LaFontaines wrote in
their book, you would see many contradictions. Such as: if they were given new clothes then why did the H/S/C “stink”? Hunt was
a master of disguise. I wouldn’t doubt that he doused himself with wine. Hunt was carrying a new pocketknife in a paper sack.
The cop thought that was suspicious — that he stole it. Why would he carry it in a paper bag? If the bag got wet, he would lose
the knife. Bums always carry a jug of water and blankets.
The cops seriously thought H/S/C shot JFK, they were about to give them gunpowder tests when they were told Oswald was
arrested and then let them go. I don’t think the cops would believe winos/bums like Gedney et. al. were capable of shooting.
When Hunt and Sturgis were arrested in a “freight car”, the reports say they cursed the cops so one of the cops “jacked a shell
into the shotgun....” Gedney at. al. were arrested in another type of railroad car (flatcar with sheets of steel). One report says
Hunt’s bag had a shirt, towel/rag, can of Spam, bar of soap, knife... the bag in the photo doesn’t look that large.
You have to remember, some of these reports were written long after the fact so the reports could have been compromised. So
there you can see that the La Fontaine tramps are not the same ones arrested and photographed in Dealy Plaza.
SOURCES:Oswald Talked, La Fontaine
FBI interviews see:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/5439/Documents.html

— You encountered Harrelson and Montoya there, who you knew ?

Holt: Harrelson came up and actually introduced himself to me as though we had just had a business meeting. He said to
me, in his typical Texas accent, “I’m Harrelson.” And we shook hands. But at the time this happened (the assassination),
I hadn’t seen him. He had been there for awhile I didn’t see him at that particular...(moment).

When I encountered him was when I had went back and scooted to the railroad car. I thought probably I would be the
only one there. Then I see Harrelson and the individual I knew as “Montoya”, that I had seen three or four times over a
three or four year period.

I met Montoya the first time in 1959. When we were trying to elicit funds from Orlando Peatra, who was Batista’s
paymaster. He lived on Pine Tree drive in Miami. And when I went over there, there were a number of individuals,
bodyguards and such. And this individual introduced himself as “Richard Montoya”, although I must admit he didn’t look
like the rest of the Cubans.

He looked like he might be Latin. He was dark, but he didn’t look like....He was a cut away from the other Cubans,
although he spoke excellent Spanish.

At the time of the shooting, the moment the shots were fired, we (I) knew something went awry. We didn’t know why, but
from the screaming and carrying on we knew that there had been one hell of a bad incident. At the time, what went
through our minds was, “Hey, we had gotten ourselves into something that is way over our heads.” So I scooted under
the train, went under to the other side, encountered Harrelson and Montoya, we searched out the car, which was not too
far from the engine, climbed in it, closed the door and sat there in silence, while I monitored the radio and listened to
what was going on.

We were in the railroad car by 12:31-12:32, almost immediately,...as soon as the shooting started, and there was
pandemonium and people were running all over the place. When actually, we look back on it, we could of easily have
lost ourselves in all of this stuff. We could have gotten right up to the grassy knoll and thrown ourselves on the ground,
like everybody else was, and started screaming, and that would have been the end of it.

We were in the box car a long time. Actually we heard a lot of transmissions. I estimated that it was almost 2 O’clock,
although my watch was still on Arizona time. I had a bad habit of not changing my watch. So I think we stayed in there till
practically 2 O’clock. We were still in there during the time when we heard the transmissions involving Tippit and back
and forth. We heard a lot of other communications. We heard the call that an officer had been dying. I am told and I
believe it was somewhere around 1:15 when we heard about the incident at the Texas theater, although we didn’t know
what happened.

So I thought it was possibly 2 O’clock before the train actually started to move. We started to move, backing down the
tracks a little ways. We thought it was going to move. I thought they were going to switch us onto another track.

Then suddenly the thing stopped. They opened the door and there was a whole bunch of police officers with shotguns
and everything else. We saw, the box car was not a fully loaded box car, but in this box car was ammunition, unusual
ammunition. Defcord?, crates that looked like they were possibly claymore mines, drums marked : MUD, which seemed
like drilling mud, which was unusual to be with the rest of this material. Which I assumed to be C-4 or some plastic
explosives.

The officers took us out, we tried to identify ourselves. We said, “Hey, we’re federal agents working on this thing,” and
they said, “Come with us.” So we strolled along and actually we went back, we came out of the yard, we went by the
Texas Depository building, across the street. I would say Harrelson and I were sort of dragging along, but Montoya, he
was really digging out. He was actually right up behind the lead officer. He turned us over to two officers, the officer in
charge, we later learned was Harkness.

In the photos, the individual in front is the individual I knew as Richard Montoya. The individual behind him I knew as
Charles Harrelson. I had reason to believe that’s who he actually was, even though I didn’t know him that well. I ‘m
confident that’s who it was. And I’m the gentleman in the back, carrying the bag with the radio in it. [An arresting
officer said there was a shirt, pocketknife, spam, a towel/rag in the bag.]

We were not placed under arrest. We were taken across, and someone interviewed us momentarily, and turned us over
to someone else. A person I later learned was Captain Fritz, he said not two or three words to us. He said he was turning
us over to the FBI. His name was Gordon Shanklin.

Chauncey Holt “confesses (below) to be the E. Howard Hunt “Tramp.” Chauncey
probably knew E. Howard Hunt because they both were involved in forging
documents and anti-Castro, anti-Trujillo activities in Miami, Hunt’s home base.
http://www.666ismoney.com/JFKWEB.html