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Are American Democrats De Facto Socialists? by Lee Ellis
Family Security Matters ^ | May 4, 2007 | Lee Ellis

Posted on 05/05/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by K-oneTexas

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To: tgambill

I’ve read the 5 steps you list before. Can’t remember if it was ‘Tragedy and Hope by Quigley’ or the Communist Party Platform of the 1950’s or where though.


21 posted on 05/05/2007 12:26:03 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: EagleUSA

Yes. Too bad most of the sheeple are stupid and blind.


22 posted on 05/05/2007 12:26:32 PM PDT by rbosque
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To: K-oneTexas
Are American Democrats De Facto Socialists?

Commie, pinko, normalphobic, God hatin', gun grabbin, baby killers, is the way I see 'em.




23 posted on 05/05/2007 12:26:34 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: K-oneTexas
Small point

Our Supreme Court also usurped some of the duties of the Legislative branch; it even stopped the presidential use of the line item veto, thus allowing our deficit to build.

I am in complete agreement with the SCOTUS ruling on the line item veto, the POTUS is not a legislator, that is the role of the congressman. The PEOPLE should hold their congressman accountable, not the POTUS

Giving the line item veto power to the POTUS would certainly tip the balancing act of influence and power out of whack we call our three legged form of government

Otherwise, great article.

Yes, it is too late. The slide to socialism has begun. Just how fast and how long it takes is the only real question unless God has other plans for the USA

24 posted on 05/05/2007 12:27:25 PM PDT by Popman (New American Dream: Move to Mexican, cross the border, become an illegal. free everything)
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To: MindBender26
“de jure, by equity” Taking from the few and giving to the many - Blacks law Dictionary 4th edition

“de facto never had plenary possession of it.” - Blacks law Dictionary.

The liberals have always been socialist, they knew the American people would NEVER put up with it, and now they think they have convinced enough Americans that it is OK to be a socialist now!

They are clearly de jure, thinking that they are legitimate now to come out of the closet as true de jure socialist!

25 posted on 05/05/2007 12:29:17 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; bitt; K-oneTexas

 
 

26 posted on 05/05/2007 12:29:27 PM PDT by potlatch (Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. M.Twain)
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To: Bernard Marx; y'all
How could this still even be a question except among the terminally ignorant or naive?

See any of FR's threads where drug & gun prohibitions are being advocated by 'majority rule socialists'.

It's a real eye opener to see how many here have 'bought into' defending various aspects of socialistic theories.

27 posted on 05/05/2007 12:30:59 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: K-oneTexas

They are socialists.


28 posted on 05/05/2007 12:31:29 PM PDT by sport
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To: K-oneTexas

The problem with socialism in the US is that we are already socialists, but neither the socialists nor the conservatives yet realize it.

Accordingly, the socialists still aren’t satisfied, and won’t be satiated even when they control everything, because they will next want to be worshipped as God Himself.

The conservatives don’t realize it, because they can still effect some small smattering of power, while ignoring the preponderance of encroachment on God given rights by socialist policies effected by their predecessors.


29 posted on 05/05/2007 12:32:51 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: K-oneTexas
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i always thought socialists were just democRATS in a hurry and communists are simply socialists with gunz...
30 posted on 05/05/2007 12:34:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“i’m afraid it’s too late...”

my sentiments exactly. the so-called “american electorate” seems to love the “brilliant intellectual” stance that the left has taken. they are enamored of pathological and psychotic people who will raid the treasury in their name and give them their “social justice”.


31 posted on 05/05/2007 12:36:56 PM PDT by ripley
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To: K-oneTexas
In this country Gramsci's strategy will founder and collapse on the bloody, sharp reef of the Second Amendment.

We should thank God daily for the wisdom of the Founding Fathers.

32 posted on 05/05/2007 12:37:14 PM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: K-oneTexas
De Facto? They are definitely socialists, at least most of them.

But shhhhh! They don't want us to 'know' yet!

33 posted on 05/05/2007 12:39:23 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My computer is back!)
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34 posted on 05/05/2007 12:41:07 PM PDT by Gritty (You can't make Socialists out of individualists - John Dewey)
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To: K-oneTexas
current DNC leaders have morphed into unabashed Socialists

Unabashed? Absolutely!! But with the rest I would disagree. They haven't morphed into socialism like a caterpillar morphs into a beautiful butterfly. There's nothing beautiful about their metamorphosis. And it wasn't accidental or natural or eventual, but the hard work and scheming and planning of leftie hippie socialists from the 60's and 70's, and now their peons, working hard behind the scenes at first but many openly now. While most everyone else either bought into it, or were nonplussed at the changes.

35 posted on 05/05/2007 12:45:05 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My computer is back!)
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To: K-oneTexas
Two peas in a commie pod... Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
36 posted on 05/05/2007 12:45:18 PM PDT by rbosque
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To: K-oneTexas

As for voters, excluding those who have a stake in power or money, I would guess that maybe 30% of them are dyed in the wool socialist or Marxist, but the vast majority are just plain stupid fools who don’t have two brain cells to rub together.
As an example, the typical TV watcher that is glued to Rosie O Dumbo, or The View.


37 posted on 05/05/2007 12:48:03 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: K-oneTexas

My sources spans more than one researcher that researched another source. I usually make an attempt to find the original sources if possible. I have found that many original sources come from prior to the late 80’s. It seems that original sources in prior to the 80’s are hard to come by. Two original sources were very costly. “The Plot to Seize the White House”...500.00 + and “The Changing Images of Man” (Systems science and world order library)
by Markley...for 170.00 +/- the internet is full of them as you already know. The Iron Mountain Report is another good source that is the sister to the Changing Images of Man.

The source for the 5 Steps is the following:

“Here’s The Proof”, by Robert Concoby & David Nicol; 1994, P 80.

This is a very good source or summary of the whole conspiracy....this paperback is hard to find. They, like all the others do cite Quigley quite a bit. Quigley is only about 1400 pages long....:)


38 posted on 05/05/2007 12:58:51 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: K-oneTexas

bump


39 posted on 05/05/2007 1:00:09 PM PDT by bubman
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
I call the Dems “Smiley-face Totalitarians.” They will keep the barbed wire, “re-education camps", chains, show trials, and the other accoutrements of totalitariansm hidden behind a benign facade until they have the White House and majorities in both Houses of Congress. IOW, Soviet Amerika is one election away. Will we have the cojones to resist them? With so many RINOs willing to grovel for scraps from their totalitarian masters, that remains to be seen.
40 posted on 05/05/2007 1:00:14 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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