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Gun Control Isn't Crime Control
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3083618&page=1 ^

Posted on 05/05/2007 6:23:10 AM PDT by truthfinder9

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To: pleikumud
No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
-—Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776.

Which was *not* adopted.

What was adopted was this:

SEC. 13. That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free State; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided, as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

The modern, that is current, Virginia Constitutional provision on the RKBA reads:

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

21 posted on 05/05/2007 10:15:30 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: truthfinder9

If it means “hitting what you aim at”, it can.


22 posted on 05/05/2007 10:18:52 AM PDT by RichInOC (BANG!)
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To: RichInOC

...be. It can be.

(Stupid fingers. Post what I mean.)


23 posted on 05/05/2007 10:20:04 AM PDT by RichInOC (BANG!)
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To: P8riot

VT didn’t spend the $$ to enforce their abridgment of legal self-defense by citizens, therefore, they are culpable for the damages caused by the perp.


24 posted on 05/05/2007 10:21:27 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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Of course this is by John Stossel, who is ABC’s resident right-winger.

Actually, he's a Libertarian, and he is up front about it. I wonder how many freepers would be outraged at his views that prostitution should be legalized and that drugs should be either decriminalized or legalized (I don't recall which he's in favor of).

But he's NOT "a conservative" nor a "right winger."

Mark

25 posted on 05/05/2007 10:31:06 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: MarkL

Like it or not, libertarian sensibilities inform plenty of conservative agenda items. How many Freepers know that? Plenty of them do. Does that mean we have to buy the whole package? No, but it should help us understand our own values and how they should be reflected by government - i.e. where the line should be drawn between majority rule and minority rights.


26 posted on 05/05/2007 10:38:33 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: El Gato

Correct.

And the Second Amendment, for those who may get confused by liberal lunatics, refers very clearly to the right of the People to Keep and Bear arms. The People. Keep. Bear. Arms.


27 posted on 05/05/2007 12:00:33 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: umgud
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

Yes, lib whackos also want to make it harder for sober people to own cars.

28 posted on 05/05/2007 1:28:15 PM PDT by Spirochete
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