Communist symbol returns to Russian Army's flag

AuBC News ^ | Saturday, May 5, 2007. 12:06pm (AEST)

[instantgratification]

Russia today may be authoritarian - the result of failed economic policies in the 1990's. However, it definitely is NOT anywhere near what communism was.

I lived in a communist society, the spouse of a Soviet citizen and hence, I was treated like very other Soviet. I would hazard a guess you did not. There is absolutely no comparison to today, even if you take the period of so called "glasnost'".

[RasterMaster]

No need to compare...the USSR (”Russia”) is just as communist as it ever was. They are just not as open about it as they once were. It will take more than PR for anything to change.

Why aren’t you currently living under Putin? If you hate anti-communists so much, you can always MOVE BACK to your 2-bit dictatorship. No one is stopping you.

[instantgratification]

HAHAHA. Congratulations on your utterly Bolshevik response - "Those who are not with us are against us".

I was never a citizen of the USSR. I lived there as a foreigner, the spouse of a Soviet citizen. I saw firsthand what communism is. I was also never a citizen of Russia.

Is this what passes for "political debate" from you?

Evidently, you know piss all about life under communism. To compare life in Russia today to life under communism is a slap in the face to the tens of millions who died at the hands of the Bolsheviks. It is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. How much Russian do you read? Do you know how many political parties exist in Russia? Do you know how much independent media exists? Have you read Russian media, which is quite varied - from monarchists to anarchists? In some ways, Russian political thought and the variety of opinion is more varied than in the US. Nobody there would ever stoop to the primitive level you displayed.

Yes, Russia has many problems, and it will take a long time to solve them. But Russia is not the USSR.

[RasterMaster]

Typical DUmocrat/commie-lover response...if I haven’t lived under communism, I cannot speak against it.

By all means feel free to move back to your beloved Russia, don’t let the door hit you in the backside.

[cmsgop]

Hey Bro, what are you feeling and hearing for Fred Thompson in OC?

[instantgratification]

You weren't speaking against communism, idiot. You are minimizing it.

Unlike you, I have seen communism FIRST HAND. I have seen relatives come back from gulags, their lives broken. I have seen fear when people speak. I have seen families broken, dreams dashed, hopes lost. And then you have the f***ing nerve to come here and compare today's Russia, where people are not sent to gulags, where they aren't shot to death if they speak their m inds, or wish to leave the country (an impossibility under communism, where the borders were sealed). You know nothing. And you have proved it. But evidently, that doesn't stop you from thinking out of your a**.

No, Mr. Bolshevik - your attitudes are the same as the commies you claim to despise. Loser.

[RasterMaster]

Thanks for resorting to personal attacks!

“Communism means that you are ready to pay whatever price for your own political goals,” Yavlinsky says. “Communism means that you say one thing and do another. Communism means you are always lying. All those points are the main points of Putin’s policies.”

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/russia/story/analysis/putin2/

Putin tactics echo communist era
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,713456,00.html

RUSSIA: Putin, Communism, and Santamaria’s hopes for Russia
http://www.newsweekly.com.au/articles/2005jan29_r.html

Schoolgirl treatment shows Putin’s Communist background
http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s142948.htm

The communists icons (flag, symbols, anthem) return
http://www.angelfire.com/in3/theodore/opinion/putin.html

You bet communism should be minimalized....it should be relegated “to the ash heap of history”.
http://www.reagansheritage.org/reagan/html/reagan_panel_pipes.shtml

Communists are an active political party in Russia so the choice is a KGB man or one of various communists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2004

http://www.hrea.org/lists/hr-headlines/markup/msg01635.html

That is same as running unopposed. Besides, Russian dictators ensured that ballot stuffing was perfected as an art form in every country where they hold influence.

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=21023

Governmental controls of the press/natural resources is another sure sign of a communist...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1228/p01s01-woeu.html

Just because a few of your hardliners died off doesn’t give Russia a free pass...the USSR LIVES!

http://www.tldm.org/news3/dead.htm

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/1/25/70247

Nothing I’ve read shows that Russia is really an ally of the US and our allies or neighboring countries, let alone her people.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2006/08/17/2003323491

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1717586.ece

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/19/npoison119.xml

http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2004/issue1/jv8n1a7.html

So it is you who ‘minimize’ communism as no real threat. Anyone who supports the lie that communism is not a threat is also going down a dangerous road.

When Russia stops supporting crazies like Lil’ Kim of N.Korea or Ahmadamnutjob in Iran, Fidel and Hugo, and those sattelites of “Russian” communism have fallen and are replaced with representative governments, and someone is “elected” in Russia other than a KGB man, you let me know, will ya’?

[instantgratification]

Tit for tat.
You fell into a communist propaganda trap. Quoting Yavlinsky is like quoting Goering on Nazism. And I'm supposed to take anything you post seriously?

Face it. You know nothing about communism. Stick to discussions about the NRA.

[RasterMaster]

Report: Iran closer to producing nukes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1833647/posts

THANKS VLAD for supplying Ahmadamnutjob with whatever he needs! Russia is the Wal-Mart of weapons for terrorist thugs.

[RasterMaster]

Communist appeasers fit in much better with the KOS Kool-Aid Kids or the DUmpster Divers over at DU. You may find more material for a come-back from your friends over there.

[instantgratification]

Hey, you're the one quoting commies as authoritative sources for your positions. You don't even understand what you're quoting. Do you know anything about Yavlinsky's background. What's next? Are you going to quote Hilary Clinton as an authoritative representative of GOP policy?

[philetus]

A new Cold War against these wicked bastards.”

This one will make the old one look like a walk in the park.

[RasterMaster]

It absolutely amazes me that there are defenders of communism on FR!

There were other quotes you ignored because you cannot defend the actions of Putin. What one commie says about another commie was only part of the last post.

Your uncle Fidel may need a replacement soon, better run along now. Besides, anyone who has "lived under communism" voluntarily (and not an employee of the CIA) is suspect and gotta be a DUmocrat plant. Especially bringing up your beloved Hildebeast.

[instantgratification]

Have you actually read any of my posts? Evidently not.

Nobody here is defending communism. But Russia today is not a communist (or more accurately, a Bolsehevik) society. And no, I didn't ignore the other posts. Your problem is you don't understand from where those quotes emanate. From other commies who have lost power (such as Berezovsky, Yavlinsky, Gaidar, etc.), and wish to manipulate useful idiots, like you, to isolate Russia.

Russia is not perfect. But anyone who lived in Russia through the 1990's, when oligarchs stole the state's assets and refused to pay taxes, when people lived in abject poverty and misery, and the corruption of the Soviet system was magnified in a "free" Russia (do you really know who Berezovksy/Khodorkhovsky/Gusinsky, ect understands why things are now happening as they do.

You are a pawn and don't even know it.

[RasterMaster]

WHY ARE YOU NOT LIVING THERE? Anyone who defends Putin as a legitimate leader in Russia is diluted at best.

[M. Espinola]

"And you come to the conclusion that Russians ignore the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact on what basis?"

The conclusion is easily drawn by those claiming to be Putin supporting Russian which remain on FR.

[M. Espinola]

If Putin’s Neo-Soviet paradise (Evil Empire II) is such a wonderful place, turn in whatever passport you hold, hop on a nice big jumbo jet, land in Moscow, and ask KGB Vlad himself to make you an honorary, Neo-Soviet, NASHI commissar. Maybe he will throw in a couple of cases of Russkie vodka too.

[instantgratification]

I believe that is "deluded". Not "diluted". Putin is, whether anyone likes it or not, the legitimately elected leader of Russia. With an over 80% approval rating.

Go back and read my posts. I've never stated I support Putin.

[instantgratification]

I highly doubt anyone here is Putin.

Go read the works of Russian historians. They do not deny the horrors of their past. Where there is still a significant way to go is to allow non Russians, particularly Ukrainian, Polish and Baltic scholars access to all war archives.

[instantgratification]

A truly Bolshevik reply, yet again. "Those who think differently are to be liquidated."

I am not an ethnic Russian. My family is where I live, hence, I stay here. But just because I happen to disagree with you, you rally with the cry of exclusion. Is independent thought or disagreement with your perspective threatening to you? Is that not the epitome of unAmerican thought? You are more Bolshevik than you know.

How many times have you been to Russia? How many business associates to you know who live there? Or is your perception based on what you read in the Western press?

I suggest you participate in a Russian language forum. Find out what real Russians think of their country. It will give you a better perspective than Berezovsky influenced op ed pieces by people who can't speak the language, don't know the culture, don't know the history, and don't know Slavs think.